Scanning “private” content

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Post by lisptime » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 7:22 PM UTC

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by AlexandrB » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:28 PM UTC

I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which seem a little dystopian as well:

> Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when users perform searches for queries related to CSAM. These interventions will explain to users that interest in this topic is harmful and problematic, and provide resources from partners to get help with this issue.

Will apple.cn be extending this to searches about "tank man" or a certain stuffed bear? Oh bother...

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by nullc » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:44 PM UTC

AlexandrB wrote: post #2

I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which seem a little dystopian as well: > Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when users perform searches for queries related to CSAM. These interventions will explain to users that interest in this topic is harmful and problematic, and provide resources from partners to get help with this issue. Will apple.cn be extending this to searches about…

I noticed google doing this too while trying to look up case law related to the discussion of apple's spyware. Related google searches popped up a big intimidating notice: "WARNING Child sexual abuse imagery is illegal".

The obvious implication is that your searches are being reported to some unaccountable authority.

I have no doubt that this creates a chilling effect against public discussion about these practices.

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by gentleman11 » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:44 PM UTC

You should be forbidden from calling it private if you scan it like this. Companies should be forced to market their data storage as public so as to not deliberately mislead users

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by sandworm101 » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:52 PM UTC

nullc wrote: post #3

AlexandrB wrote: post #2

I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which seem a little dystopian as well: > Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when users perform searches for queries related to CSAM. These interventions will explain to users that interest in this topic is harmful and problematic, and provide resources from partners to get help with this issue. Will apple.cn be extending this to searches about…

I noticed google doing this too while trying to look up case law related to the discussion of apple's spyware. Related google searches popped up a big intimidating notice: " WARNING Child sexual abuse imagery is illegal". The obvious implication is that your searches are being reported to some unaccountable authority. I have no doubt that this creates a chilling effect against public discussion about these practices.

Lol. I've gotten these many times. It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one typo away from a listed child porn term/site. If google is reporting these then I am already on thier list.

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by shocks » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:58 PM UTC

AlexandrB wrote: post #2

I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which seem a little dystopian as well: > Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when users perform searches for queries related to CSAM. These interventions will explain to users that interest in this topic is harmful and problematic, and provide resources from partners to get help with this issue. Will apple.cn be extending this to searches about…

This is interesting because it’s trivial to use someone else’s Siri and make it search whatever you want.

(I can trigger my partners with 75% reliability if I just speak in a high pitched voice)

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by lettergram » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

Librem 5 and pinephone are the future

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by iammisc » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 10:10 PM UTC

The Butlerian Jihad cannot come soon enough. As time goes on, I realize that certain authors had better insights into the human condition than others. For example, Alduous Huxley has turned out to be more prophetic than George Orwell. I believe Frank Herbert will as well. Man cannot be ruled by machine.

This cannot last much longer. A lot of political division in this country is due to technology. As someone genuinely interested in computation, it upsets me to realize this, but more and more it seems inevitable.

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by anonymousiam » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 10:13 PM UTC

Maybe get the hash database and create a trove of clean documents that force a hash collision and overload the system with false positives. Maybe also add something about the Fourth Amendment in the documents for good measure.

Re: Scanning “private” content

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Post by shapefrog » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 10:15 PM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #5

nullc wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed google doing this too while trying to look up case law related to the discussion of apple's spyware. Related google searches popped up a big intimidating notice: " WARNING Child sexual abuse imagery is illegal". The obvious implication is that your searches are being reported to some unaccountable authority. I have no doubt that this creates a chilling effect against public discussion about these practices.

Lol. I've gotten these many times. It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one typo away from a listed child porn term/site. If google is reporting these then I am already on thier list.

> It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one typo away

Ah that old chestnut, I am sure they have heard many worse excuses than that one.