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Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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Re: Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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Ahonen is deluded and has no idea about the state of the smartphone competition. He seriously seems to believe that Symbian in its current state is up there with Android, iOS and Windows Phone:

You the reader may think that Symbian was a dead OS, it was undesirable, it was failing in the market, it was obsolete etc. That all may have been true of the older versions of Symbian, up to September 2010. It is not true now. The facts are irrefutable. From October 2010, Nokia had an honest hit OS that powered increasing sales, increasing ASPs and most importantly for Nokia - dramatically increased profits! Only a complete fool would step on this incredible success, and kill it.

He thinks the Nokia N8 is a great phone. It isn't. I had it for 5 months until I gave up and switched to a Samsung device (after 10 years with Nokia).

Symbian^3 on the N8 didn't deliver half of what was promised. Horribly broken web browser, no portrait keyboard, unusable app store that spent two minutes downloading updates for itself whenever it was opened, outdated version of the Qt API on the device... The list goes on.

Nokia said last year that there would be quick updates to Symbian to fill in the missing functionality. Rumors said that a revamped browser would be available by the end of 2010. Then Nokia officially extended this deadline to Q1/11. Guess what? The new browser still isn't available for the N8. The update, now called Symbian Anna, may be available to N8 users next month, if they're lucky and their operator approves of the OS update...

This lethargic pace of development makes it clear that Symbian development was out of control and the whole OS is unsalvageable. They had thousands of engineers working on this system, but it had grown so complex that they apparently couldn't even update the browser without breaking everything, leaving the OS stuck with a 5-year old branch of WebKit.

Nokia never understood software. Giving it up and letting Microsoft have total control of the user-facing operating system is the best thing they could have done.

Re: Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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Probably the worst analysis you will read today.

How bad is it? He spends 12 paragraphs "justifying" 7% future growth alternative scenario based on the 7% observed growth from Q3 to holiday Q4.

Then he doesn't use this. He instead goes with a linear assumption of decreasing market share. Again ignores the holiday quarter and historical decline (-14% drop from Q4 09 to Q1 10 in a much better environment for Nokia). And spends the next 20-30 paragraphs fencing with straw men.

Re: Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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post #2

Ahonen is deluded and has no idea about the state of the smartphone competition. He seriously seems to believe that Symbian in its current state is up there with Android, iOS and Windows Phone: You the reader may think that Symbian was a dead OS, it was undesirable, it was failing in the market, it was obsolete etc. That all may have been true of the older versions of Symbian, up to September 2010. It is not true now…

Yeah, the entire blog post is clearly not neutral at all. Claiming that people LOVED Symbian ... It had fallen so far behind.

Nokia faced a similar platform hurdle to Apple in the mid-90's, they needed a modern OS, and brought one in from outside. It is a painful transition but I think they made the right decision.

Re: Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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This is the same guy who predicted that iPhone sales would peak in April 2010. Judging by the length of his blog posts his mind is a cluttered mess. Do not blindly trust his opinion even though he may sometimes be right.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/04/20/tomi-ahonen

Re: Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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post #3

Probably the worst analysis you will read today. How bad is it? He spends 12 paragraphs "justifying" 7% future growth alternative scenario based on the 7% observed growth from Q3 to holiday Q4. Then he doesn't use this. He instead goes with a linear assumption of decreasing market share. Again ignores the holiday quarter and historical decline (-14% drop from Q4 09 to Q1 10 in a much better environment for Nokia). An…

> How bad is it? He spends 12 paragraphs "justifying" 7% future growth alternative scenario based on the 7% observed growth from Q3 to holiday Q4.

Haha, that's incredible. Lies, damned lies and statistics.

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post #5

This is the same guy who predicted that iPhone sales would peak in April 2010. Judging by the length of his blog posts his mind is a cluttered mess. Do not blindly trust his opinion even though he may sometimes be right. http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/04/20/tomi-ahonen

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Re: Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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post #8
post #5

This is the same guy who predicted that iPhone sales would peak in April 2010. Judging by the length of his blog posts his mind is a cluttered mess. Do not blindly trust his opinion even though he may sometimes be right. http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/04/20/tomi-ahonen

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He writes about all the device manufacturers and provides useful stats but he was always heavily biased toward Nokia (& Symbian) but since Elop's burning platform announcement he's almost started a crusade against him. I wouldn't waste my time reading his blog. He may be right about the Nokia/Microsoft partnership but only time will tell, they might produce some awesome devices.

Re: Stephen Elop Costs Nokia 10 Million Dollars of Lost Profit Every Day

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> Now in the Steve Ballmer era, Microsoft is interested only in screwing everybody, including its own developers

Come on, atleast try to pretend that you didn't have a predetermined idea of what you want your solution to look like before you make up your numbers.

This really causes the authors credibility to take a hit here.

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