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Launch HN: Legion Health (YC S21) – Smarter Staffing for Mental Health

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Hi HN! We’re Yash, Arthur, and Daniel, the founders of Legion Health (https://legion.health). We're an online marketplace for health care professionals, starting in mental health. Basically, we sell psychiatrists' and therapists’ time to telehealth companies by the hour. Professionals sign up for shifts that fit their schedule, and telehealth companies can scale more quickly by not needing to hire them full time.

Telehealth companies and other health care organizations (hospitals, medical groups, home health, etc.) face huge problems around recruiting, managing, and scheduling clinicians to meet patient demand. This is getting worse because of a large (230,000+) shortage of mental health professionals in the US. Staffing companies exist, but they solve only one piece of that problem, are expensive, and don’t mitigate risk for their customers.

We heard how bad things were during a 2-hour call with the Director of Business Operations at a large telehealth company last December. She told us in amazing detail how difficult it is to recruit doctors to her platform and how much gets spent on that sole task. In addition, she talked about the weekly fluctuation in patient demand and the pain felt when scaling her physician workforce up and down. Independently, over the next week, Arthur started thinking about "Uber for doctors" and Daniel conceived "AWS for doctor time," and then we realized they were two sides of the same marketplace.

While honing our idea, we found that it is most applicable to mental health. In the US, mental health has undergone a boom in demand in recent years (whether at hospitals or telehealth companies, like Modern Health, Daybreak, and Ophelia—all funded by YC). However, supply has not kept up—there just aren’t enough professionals. Mental health is also a field that is quite suited to care delivery via telehealth. So we started there.

Our product solves problems on both sides of the market. On the supply side, many mental health professionals are looking for additional work to supplement their existing part- or full-time jobs at a hospital, the VA, etc. On the demand side, health care organizations are looking for a more affordable and flexible solution for their staffing problem. We find out what time is available from our network of clinicians, divide it into hour-long chunks, then sell those hours to our customers (the health care organizations) who only pay for the time that they use—that is, the hours when the clinicians are actually working with their patients.

Unlike staffing companies and in-house recruiters, we turn health care companies' fixed costs into variable costs, significantly reduce hiring risk, and have no upfront fees. Compared to other telepsychiatry solutions, we are much less expensive because our network consists mostly of psychiatric nurse practitioners and social workers who, in many states, do almost everything that psychiatrists do but (for historical reasons) charge lower rates. Unlike other telehealth staffing solutions, we are obsessed with quality (in regard to both clinician performance and building our product to facilitate long-term clinician-patient relationships), ease of integration, and not having minimum usage amounts.

Our product doesn’t exist in a public form. Rather, health companies white-label our network to better meet their patient demand. We currently have a network of 131 mental health professionals whom we match with our customers manually (“do things that don’t scale”). We are building software for scheduling, clinician-customer-patient matching, clinician onboarding, notifications, etc.

COVID-19 has made telehealth normal for patients, clinicians, and institutions, so the opportunity here is huge. Even traditional institutions (hospitals, rural clinics, home health, assisted living, hospice, etc.) need a smarter staffing solution because hiring health care professionals is incredibly hard for them as well. At present, we are figuring out where to show traction first as we scale. So far, we’re seeing that the organizations with the shortest sales cycles tend to be smaller, more agile, more tech-friendly companies.

If I could end on a personal note: although all this marketplace talk sounds cold and fungible, all three of us first encountered this problem from the patient side. My father had brain cancer last year, and getting ahold of his hospice nurses to do simple tasks like refilling his meds was a pain. The nurses wanted to help; there just weren't enough of them. For Arthur, when he was a child in rural Colorado, his brother had a nasty string of epileptic seizures brought on by inadvertent exposure to chemicals from a meth dealer down the street. It took 2 months (after over 150 seizures) for his brother to see a specialist in Denver who could treat him. For Daniel, it was when a close friend in crisis tried to schedule an appointment with her psychiatrist and found that the earliest she could see him was in 3 months. The latter experience hits closest to what we’re tackling first at Legion Health, but the fact that we all know how desperate it feels when care is needed, but not available, gives us motivation to keep going, even when running into the notorious intractability of the US health care system.

We'd love to hear what you think, even if it’s constructive criticism on our approach. If you or a friend hires health care professionals (especially in mental health), we'd love to talk to you to figure out what parts of our tech product you find most valuable, so we can figure out where to build next. If you or a friend is a mental health professional, thank you for doing such important and necessary work during these difficult times. Excited to answer any questions and hear your ideas, feedback, and experiences in the comments!

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On first look it seems like a scary way of commoditizing one of the most personal connection requiring forms of care there is. How do you ensure quality and aligned goals with the patients if it's literally just selling hours?

Great question, and I really appreciate you bringing that up. This is one that we get from many of our customers.

First, we have consulted with experts from across health care to implement the most rigorous quality standards for the professionals in our network. Not only do our clinicians have to pass tests of baseline quality (background check, licensure check, etc.), but they are also directly assessed based on their level of clinical expertise, years of experience, education level, etc. We even speak with all of our clinicians to do a basic sanity check and determine how they will present over video.

On the back end, we are currently creating processes to assess post-visit performance in a number of ways, including timeliness, patient satisfaction, etc. That will allow us to weed out lower-quality professionals and reward our higher-quality professionals.

Lastly, a key part of quality in mental health is continuity of care (a longitudinal patient-clinician relationship). Features in our product allow for our customers (health care organizations) to view our clinicians' availability and directly schedule their patients to match that availability, such that the relationship is maintained. Then, we have a number of ways (one of them being highly favorable compensation) to ensure that our mental health professionals stay with us.

I hope this helps, and happy to explain further.

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On first look it seems like a scary way of commoditizing one of the most personal connection requiring forms of care there is. How do you ensure quality and aligned goals with the patients if it's literally just selling hours?

Great question, and I really appreciate you bringing that up. This is one that we get from many of our customers. First, we have consulted with experts from across health care to implement the most rigorous quality standards for the professionals in our network. Not only do our clinicians have to pass tests of baseline quality (background check, licensure check, etc.), but they are also directly assessed based on the…

I don't know about this. Most psychiatrists I've known have always recommended to meet in person rather than holding something over call. Always set up extra appointments and made time for them at no expense. The ones who would do anything lower than that would come off to me as sub par (and I've had online psychiatrists too, and all of them were subpar).

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I may be a customer if the price is right -- but I'm wondering how this actually fits as a standalone product. My customer cost and your profit are hard to mentally balance in my mind. And maybe I've been wrong in evaluating these markets, but recruiting for a Telehealth offering is tablestakes, and a core competitive advantage to this space.

Also to echo Jommi's comment, these aren't plug-n-play relationships from what I've seen. Especially from the Apps that try the text based therapy route to get around the 1:1 relationship

This also sounds like its about to run into the classic problem with hair stylists in the US. You're going to end up having clients want to see their therapist on their schedule - making the load balancing a super tough problem, because you can't just hot swap a new therapist in. You're going to have to run predictive modeling on the demand side to know when to have your supplier free.

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Hey Yash & team, just wanted to say looking forward to what you guys accomplish! This is great to see. Legion Health's business model is interesting & cool to see because the current company I work for, the business is basically the same but we're just in the manufacturing & logistics industries.

Supply side: Operators aka independent contractors who are looking for flexible work in the manufacturing & logistics space. Demand side: Businesses in the industries that face labor shortage & don't want to hire full time employees & want to only meet demand depending on the marketplace.

So, really cool to see this! I love how you guys are focusing on mental health because that's something really important to me & I value because I've been through it in the past year. Had all the mental health illness symptoms including anxiety, loss of appetite, depression, loss of sleep, no social interaction, etc. Looking forward to seeing the big things you guys accomplish!

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On first look it seems like a scary way of commoditizing one of the most personal connection requiring forms of care there is. How do you ensure quality and aligned goals with the patients if it's literally just selling hours?

Great question, and I really appreciate you bringing that up. This is one that we get from many of our customers. First, we have consulted with experts from across health care to implement the most rigorous quality standards for the professionals in our network. Not only do our clinicians have to pass tests of baseline quality (background check, licensure check, etc.), but they are also directly assessed based on the…

Do you have a triage system in place where you have a phd level provider that diagnoses and funnels to the appropriate level person to do ongoing treatment? Also why would Good provide join your team what are you offering that makes you competitive to a provider.
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