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Moon Tricks Tesla's Full Self-Driving Feature into Thinking It's a Yellow Light

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Re: Moon Tricks Tesla's Full Self-Driving Feature into Thinking It's a Yellow Light

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I'm not going to knock Tesla for trying a primarily visual-only approach, but I will knock them for insisting that it will work out to level 4 autonomous driving with just software.

I predict that these kinds of unexpected edge cases will keep popping up for several years. It certainly will be interesting to see how robust their image processing algorithms get as time goes on, but I wouldn't hold my breath for reliable full self driving for a while.

Re: Moon Tricks Tesla's Full Self-Driving Feature into Thinking It's a Yellow Light

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I'm not going to knock Tesla for trying a primarily visual-only approach, but I will knock them for insisting that it will work out to level 4 autonomous driving with just software. I predict that these kinds of unexpected edge cases will keep popping up for several years. It certainly will be interesting to see how robust their image processing algorithms get as time goes on, but I wouldn't hold my breath for reliab…

I would hold it against them. I think we should start with as many sensors as is necessary to get it working robustly. Over time we can then strip one or the other sensor as we see what we can do with software improvements.

First get something working, then reduce costs, not the other way around.

Re: Moon Tricks Tesla's Full Self-Driving Feature into Thinking It's a Yellow Light

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I'm not going to knock Tesla for trying a primarily visual-only approach, but I will knock them for insisting that it will work out to level 4 autonomous driving with just software. I predict that these kinds of unexpected edge cases will keep popping up for several years. It certainly will be interesting to see how robust their image processing algorithms get as time goes on, but I wouldn't hold my breath for reliab…

Wouldn't two cameras and parallax show that the moon is a bit too far away to worry about?

Re: Moon Tricks Tesla's Full Self-Driving Feature into Thinking It's a Yellow Light

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post #2

I'm not going to knock Tesla for trying a primarily visual-only approach, but I will knock them for insisting that it will work out to level 4 autonomous driving with just software. I predict that these kinds of unexpected edge cases will keep popping up for several years. It certainly will be interesting to see how robust their image processing algorithms get as time goes on, but I wouldn't hold my breath for reliab…

Wouldn't two cameras and parallax show that the moon is a bit too far away to worry about?

It would if the cameras were good enough and plentiful enough and can be rectified. It seems pretty clear from all of the failure stories that Tesla either does not do stereopsis up front to establish geometry at all or doesn't do it enough and instead relies primarily on blackbox identification NNs.

Re: Moon Tricks Tesla's Full Self-Driving Feature into Thinking It's a Yellow Light

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I had this happen on my commute to work, but from the sun. It's really smoky here, and the sun was breaking through the smoke just enough and at the right angle to look like a yellow light. It was pretty amusing to see a bunch of yellow traffic lights stream by as I was driving.
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