41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
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41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
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Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#2That may be what they say, but there aren't nearly enough EVs being manufactured for that to happen.
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#3I’ve known a lot of people to say this, only to buy a gas powered vehicle when they realize that Teslas aren’t as cheap as they thought. The price gets even higher when they realize they need to hire an electrician to install a charging station for several thousand dollars.
A Tesla Model 3 base model in white with no options will cost $41K with destination charge and no self-driving. Upgrade to the long range model, any color other than white, and get the self-driving package and you're looking at $60K. That same $60K could buy two Honda Insight hybrids which get 40-50mpg, and you'd still thousands left over. There are cheaper electric cars out there, but it's still tough to compete with economy gasoline cars or even economy hybrids like the Honda Insight.
Road trips are also a hurdle for many. If a family drives 8 hours to visit grandma twice a year but an electric car would require a long charging stop at sparse charging infrastructure, suddenly that gas powered vehicle looks a lot more attractive.
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#4I said this to myself before I bought my last car, but:
1) There doesn't seem to be any practical or socially acceptable way of charging a car that is parked on the street (I don't have a driveway)
2) Electric cars seems to still be significantly more expensive, even used. For what I was willing to pay, I couldn't find anything more than a very basic used leaf.
3) At the affordable end at least: They are so ugly and there's little to choose from. Both the Leaf and Zoe have this weird "electric car" look that I am not keen on.
That was my experience a couple of years ago in the UK
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#5I said this to myself before I bought my last car, but: 1) There doesn't seem to be any practical or socially acceptable way of charging a car that is parked on the street (I don't have a driveway) 2) Electric cars seems to still be significantly more expensive, even used. For what I was willing to pay, I couldn't find anything more than a very basic used leaf. 3) At the affordable end at least: They are so ugly and…
> 1) There doesn't seem to be any practical or socially acceptable way of charging a car that is parked on the street (I don't have a driveway)
These ways are pretty cool:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjiR-Wz_Z8s
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb5aA3Qepe8
Wireless charge points are also in the future:
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#6I said this to myself before I bought my last car, but: 1) There doesn't seem to be any practical or socially acceptable way of charging a car that is parked on the street (I don't have a driveway) 2) Electric cars seems to still be significantly more expensive, even used. For what I was willing to pay, I couldn't find anything more than a very basic used leaf. 3) At the affordable end at least: They are so ugly and…
Number 1 is still the major issue, electric cars make sense for those who own a house or has access to an underground car park with charging.
If you don't get a Tesla then the infrastructure is still not great. And roaming negotiations to let other electric cars use Teslas charging is still not a thing.
For a successful rollout every charging facility has to be available, period.
Adding electric charging to gas stations will not help enough.
The current selection of electric cars is much better today, though most new cars seem to be in the high end of the price range.
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#7I don’t see how this article isn’t cherry picked.
- How about those in cold climates where batteries don’t last nearly as long.
- upper middle-class and higher only? Most apartments don’t have hookups. Those that do don’t have enough for 10% of the residents. How many home have hookups? How many families have $10k laying around to install hookups?
Beyond the fact that it’s not reasonable at all for most Americans, no electrical grid would be able to handle it.
It takes 2 minutes to refill you car with petrol. Most people don’t have the patience to wait 4 hrs for a fillup.
Electric vehicles for near majority is not realistic at all right now.
At the moment, this is a “cool” novelty, but not an option for most.
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#8I said this to myself before I bought my last car, but: 1) There doesn't seem to be any practical or socially acceptable way of charging a car that is parked on the street (I don't have a driveway) 2) Electric cars seems to still be significantly more expensive, even used. For what I was willing to pay, I couldn't find anything more than a very basic used leaf. 3) At the affordable end at least: They are so ugly and…
Number 1 is still the major issue, electric cars make sense for those who own a house or has access to an underground car park with charging. If you don't get a Tesla then the infrastructure is still not great. And roaming negotiations to let other electric cars use Teslas charging is still not a thing. For a successful rollout every charging facility has to be available, period. Adding electric charging to gas stati…
> And roaming negotiations to let other electric cars use Teslas charging is still not a thing
But soon:
https://electrek.co/2021/07/20/elon-musk-confirms-tesla-open...
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#9I don’t see how this article isn’t cherry picked. - How about those in cold climates where batteries don’t last nearly as long. - upper middle-class and higher only? Most apartments don’t have hookups. Those that do don’t have enough for 10% of the residents. How many home have hookups? How many families have $10k laying around to install hookups? Beyond the fact that it’s not reasonable at all for most Americans, no…
Adding a 220 outlet isn't outrageously expensive and it is only needed once as it will work with any future EVs. Adding a circuit and outlet to my garage cost $500 and I use the charging adapter that came with the car.
And as for the grid not being able to handle the load - we were able to roll out air conditioning to every home in a couple of decades. I believe this is a solvable problem.
Re: 41 percent of consumers say their next car will be electric
#10I’ve known a lot of people to say this, only to buy a gas powered vehicle when they realize that Teslas aren’t as cheap as they thought. The price gets even higher when they realize they need to hire an electrician to install a charging station for several thousand dollars. A Tesla Model 3 base model in white with no options will cost $41K with destination charge and no self-driving. Upgrade to the long range model,…
This is a highly dynamic market: from rapidly (in some geographies) developing charging infrastructure to EVs becoming nicer, cheaper and with higher range. Two recent news in this regard are quite notable: a) Elon Musk announcing opening Tesla's Supercharger infrastructure to non-Tesla cars later this year and b) Chinese EV manufacturer Xpeng pricing base model of their new sedan P5 at less than $25K (beating Tesla at bringing the price of a solid EV down to that critical level).