Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
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Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
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Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#210 years later...
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#3some people have too much free time on their hands
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#4This is just more illustration of the cultural difference between the two camps of developers:
Microsoft: Yes this seems strange, but this is actually what the users want - and we have tests to prove it - so we'll do it
Linux: RTFM n00bz! Ubuntu! Ubuntu!
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#5I've never understood that confusion, it's nonsense. Start doesn't mean "start your computer", you don't click it to start your computer, so it very obviously means "start doing something". "Shut down" falls under "something"
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#6I watched the relevant minute from the clip, wtf is wrong with this guy? He made fun of the start button thing and everyone laughed, and then showed the super confusing Windows print dialog and compared it to a "747 shuttle cockpit", which actually got applause. The dialog has like 4 options on it; there are more buttons on this HN page than on that print dialog. I may watch the whole clip later, this is absurd
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#7This is just more illustration of the cultural difference between the two camps of developers: Microsoft: Yes this seems strange, but this is actually what the users want - and we have tests to prove it - so we'll do it Linux: RTFM n00bz! Ubuntu! Ubuntu!
As a Windows and Ubuntu user I would find it offensive in a face to face talk.
Your statement is an overgeneralization to say the least.
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#8I guess that's why Vista doesn't have a start button.
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#9The whole intuition thing is rather questionable. You learn how things work and then you get used to them. It doesn't matter much whether it's an apple icon or a start button. Neither shouts "shutdown!".
It's much more important how much work frequently repeated actions take once you know them. No keyboard shortcut can ever be intuitive in the sense you could have suspected what it does without learning about it. But it's quick and you can remember it. That's what counts.
Are regular expressions intuitive? No, but just imagine you had to do pattern matching with a language full of very intuitive words, like SQL or COBOL say :)
Re: Why Have a Start Button to Shutdown Windows?
#10I guess that's why Vista doesn't have a start button.
I guess it's because almost every windows user is familiar with the button in the lower left corner nowadays. It's been that way for almost 13 years now.