Building a vision of life without work (2015)
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Building a vision of life without work (2015)
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#3This is one of the biggest missing pieces in internet FIRE discussions. So much of the FIRE discourse is about not working that many don’t realize that they’re going to be extremely bored with 16 hours to fill every day. Worse, their friends are all busy with their lives.
It’s actually a common failure point of FIRE post-mittens that didn’t work out. Especially with couples, where it’s more likely that at least one person will realize that maybe jobs, and the sense of purpose and social life that comes with them, aren’t so bad.
The other big issue is that people underestimate their spending in a post-work FIRE lifestyle. It’s tempting to subtract out costs like commuting and work clothes and assume your costs will go down. In practice, if you plan on traveling and spending more time on hobbies your costs are likely to go up.
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#4I hope I have this problem some day. Retirement seems a long, long, long way off. Feeling the rat race pretty intensely the last 5 years.
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#5This person also posted an amazing, unvarnished update recently (about 5-6 years later): https://livingafi.com/2021/03/17/the-2021-early-retirement-u...
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I am immediately reminded of the Soviet union's full employment policy, and the absurd jobs they had to invent in order to fulfill it. As a matter of fact they regarded a lack of unemployment as a clear indicator of the superiority of socialism over capitalism.
More on this : https://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-achieving-full-employmen...
With that said, I expected an article on post-work society. I'm a little bit disappointed.
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#7This is one of the biggest missing pieces in internet FIRE discussions. So much of the FIRE discourse is about not working that many don’t realize that they’re going to be extremely bored with 16 hours to fill every day. Worse, their friends are all busy with their lives. It’s actually a common failure point of FIRE post-mittens that didn’t work out. Especially with couples, where it’s more likely that at least one p…
Got to admit that watching people struggle with the question of what to do without a job to fill their time is just completely wild to me. It is difficult for me to imagine someone who has so little they want to do outside of work that they can't easily find ways to fill up the 8+ hours a day their job takes from them. I have a list of things I'd like to do a mile long that I know I'll never actually find time to do because I've prioritized other shit I want to do.
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#8This is one of the biggest missing pieces in internet FIRE discussions. So much of the FIRE discourse is about not working that many don’t realize that they’re going to be extremely bored with 16 hours to fill every day. Worse, their friends are all busy with their lives. It’s actually a common failure point of FIRE post-mittens that didn’t work out. Especially with couples, where it’s more likely that at least one p…
> extremely bored
Not if you have a hobby (or hobbies) or have an interest in working in art or science or math or with computers… (Did I just say “working”?)
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#9I hope I have this problem some day. Retirement seems a long, long, long way off. Feeling the rat race pretty intensely the last 5 years.
I feel you. I don't know if it is the pandemic or I've just reached mid-life-crisis age, but I'm so ready to not be working that I'm considering just quitting right now and killing myself when the money eventually runs out.
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#10This is one of the biggest missing pieces in internet FIRE discussions. So much of the FIRE discourse is about not working that many don’t realize that they’re going to be extremely bored with 16 hours to fill every day. Worse, their friends are all busy with their lives. It’s actually a common failure point of FIRE post-mittens that didn’t work out. Especially with couples, where it’s more likely that at least one p…
I would think the most common failure point of FIRE would be the financial independence part.