Mental Poker [pdf]

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Post by atamyrat » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 4:46 AM UTC

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Post by ball_of_lint » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 6:28 AM UTC

This article is particularly interesting in light of the various lotteries and other gambling devices which are available on the Ethereum Blockchain. They approach a similar problem from a slightly different direction, not always successfully.

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Post by Ideabile » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 7:58 AM UTC

I love solve this problem, is such an interesting point were trust and cryptography comes in place.

I even try to build a prototype my self for p2p poker. I don't have anymore the code to share.

Anyway I will also recommend this video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthPiiCS24A

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Post by Aliyekta » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 8:32 AM UTC

Ideabile wrote: post #3

I love solve this problem, is such an interesting point were trust and cryptography comes in place. I even try to build a prototype my self for p2p poker. I don't have anymore the code to share. Anyway I will also recommend this video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthPiiCS24A

the video actually features the second author of the paper.

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Post by danohuiginn » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 8:33 AM UTC

By Rivest, Shamir and Adleman, as in (creators of) RSA

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Post by exo762 » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 8:37 AM UTC

Anyone interested in the subject should also look into https://zkga.me. It's an incomplete information p2p game (just as mental poker). They utilize zksnarks, among other crypto tools.

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Post by fouc » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 8:52 AM UTC

> Can two potentially dishonest players play a fair game of poker without using any cards － for example, over the phone?

> This paper provides the following answers:

> 1. No. (Rigorous mathematical proof supplied.)

> 2. Yes. (Correct and complete protocol given.)

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Post by wumms » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 9:03 AM UTC

Ideabile wrote: post #3

I love solve this problem, is such an interesting point were trust and cryptography comes in place. I even try to build a prototype my self for p2p poker. I don't have anymore the code to share. Anyway I will also recommend this video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthPiiCS24A

What if I use a different key for each card?

I found the answer in the youtube comments:

> Dan McNeill: What if I use a different key for each card?

> MrBawn: In the physical version, you could absolutely identify each card by which of your keys unlocked your lock without unlocking your opponent's lock. In the crypto version, you can't tell which of your keys works on an encrypted card because your opponent's lock has turned it into gibberish. So an incorrect key would be indistinguishable from a correct key.

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Post by wumms » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 9:12 AM UTC

Published ~1981

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Post by thudson » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 10:54 AM UTC

If you want to play mental poker with an arbitrary number of friends/enemies, I built a prototype with a really basic UI that extends the SRA81 protocol to support more than two players and that also removes the need to reveal the hands at the end of the game. https://secret.cards/