DevOps is dead. But what will replace it?

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Post by nosvince » Sun, Jul 04, 2021, 1:20 AM UTC

DevOps is dead. But what will replace it?
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Re: DevOps is dead. But what will replace it?

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Post by aksss » Sun, Jul 04, 2021, 3:20 AM UTC

So.. serverless apps will not require managing tons of vms and containers, so devops workload reduces 80%? Am I comprehending point? And prognosis is serverless apps will dominate?

I mean, in my small world of using azure app services, azure functions and CI/CD, that makes sense. I work on relatively small and tailored solutions though.

Re: DevOps is dead. But what will replace it?

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Post by afrodc_ » Sun, Jul 04, 2021, 5:02 AM UTC

This post doesn't really say anything and hand waves over a lot of the complexities of real world deployment and operations that isn't a simple stateless hello world web application.

Re: DevOps is dead. But what will replace it?

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Post by Animats » Sun, Jul 04, 2021, 5:44 AM UTC

What will replace it? 996.

Re: DevOps is dead. But what will replace it?

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Post by redis_mlc » Sun, Jul 04, 2021, 5:47 AM UTC

- DevOps originally was supposed to eliminate Operations (Sysadmin) staff by involving Dev with the Infra and Release process.

- But Dev is incentivized to create features, not know the intricacies of Release at scale, so dedicated Devops (Operations) teams were again staffed

- dedicated DevOps teams are here to stay except in certain unique scenarios. For example, I've seen some Indian-led SV startups that hate Operations staff ("oh, they're overhead") carefully design their production environment around using services that don't need mgmt. (DynamoDB, Lambda, etc.), and that will work up to a certain scale.

However, every time they have a problem with AWS, onboarding, security, excessive on-call rotations, etc. their developers have to be ready to become the DevOps they so despise, reducing the number of featueres they can build.

- in larger companies, Devs don't have access to production, so again dedicated DevOps teams are needed if only to enforce policy.