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OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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Re: OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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This is partly about "mutual recognition of database rights": "since Brexit, any database made on or after 1 January 2021 in the UK will not be protected in the EU, and vice versa".

It's not something most people need to worry about, but I expect OpenStreetMap won't be the only company affected by that.

Re: OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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post #2

This is partly about "mutual recognition of database rights": "since Brexit, any database made on or after 1 January 2021 in the UK will not be protected in the EU, and vice versa". It's not something most people need to worry about, but I expect OpenStreetMap won't be the only company affected by that.

It would have been useful for the article to summarise the situation on this between the EU and the US and between the UK and the EU, as this looks like a global issue.

I have a tendency for cynicism so I have noticed that the article mentions their failure to obtain charity status, which suggests that they may be looking at lowering their tax bill...

Re: OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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post #4

It's not really clear to me what the problem is. Doesn't the Open Database License applies everywhere, brexit or not? I never thought that where an "open source" project is physically located as any impact on the license it uses.

It's in the article:

One “important reason”, Rischard said, was the failure of the UK and EU to agree on mutual recognition of database rights. While both have an agreement to recognise copyright protections, that only covers work which is creative in nature.

Re: OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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Oh this is about the "Database Rights".

In essence, EU, UK and the USA has different opinion on the ownership status and rights of databases.

EU: Databases are similar to other copyrightable works, thus you can't simply copy someones database.

UK: Like EU but with different flavour.

USA: There's no such things as database rights.

Apparently, although the positions of UK and EU are similar, since UK is no longer in the EU and there's no mutual agreement on how to make things work those who want to have their databases protected by the law need to move to the jurisdiction that fits their needs and in the case of OpenStreetMap that would be EU.

fun fact: The last time the database rights was a hot topic, it was about Google copying the database of a small company that specialises in building a database of net worth of celebrities.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24105465

Re: OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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post #4

It's not really clear to me what the problem is. Doesn't the Open Database License applies everywhere, brexit or not? I never thought that where an "open source" project is physically located as any impact on the license it uses.

I think if someone abroad is abusing your license, the nuclear option is to sue them in their own country. If that country deems that there's nothing wrong in what is being done, then at the very least you are on a much weaker standing.

Whereas if, from first principles, the rights of the license holder are recognised, then it's much easier to have your rights enforced.

Re: OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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post #2

This is partly about "mutual recognition of database rights": "since Brexit, any database made on or after 1 January 2021 in the UK will not be protected in the EU, and vice versa". It's not something most people need to worry about, but I expect OpenStreetMap won't be the only company affected by that.

It would have been useful for the article to summarise the situation on this between the EU and the US and between the UK and the EU, as this looks like a global issue. I have a tendency for cynicism so I have noticed that the article mentions their failure to obtain charity status, which suggests that they may be looking at lowering their tax bill...

Having charity status foremost eases collecting donations. With lots of bureaucratic overhead as it restricts where money can be spent.

Re: OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations

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> The move may still not happen if the foundation can’t find a suitable country to relocate to. Ireland is out, because of a requirement for directors to be residents; France too, because of the difficulty in guaranteeing English-language services.

So moving to the EU solves some problems but adds more?

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