The Next Car You Buy Should Be Electric
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The Next Car You Buy Should Be Electric
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Re: The Next Car You Buy Should Be Electric
#2Of course, the rational arguments are almost all in favor of electric. But he's not going to win many friends here with that quote!
>old-school petrolheads screaming … that part of the fun is to be pat of the machine … It’s like the old-school nerds refusing to adopt graphical user interfaces in the 80s.
Give me bazaar-style composable UIs and I'll stop being an old-school nerd. Don't have any? Thought so!
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#3Still doesn't work for my use case. I commute on public transport, live in an apartment with only on-street parking, there is limited on-street charging but it's massively oversubscribed.
Mostly I drive longer distances for hiking trips, weekends away music festivals, visiting family etc. Very few of these destinations have charging options.
I've seen how this can work, I drove an electric Hyundai Ionic as a hire car in South Korea a couple of years ago. The car was great and there are chargers everywhere, but we're nowhere near that point in the UK as yet.
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#4> It’s like the old-school nerds refusing to adopt graphical user interfaces in the 80s. It’s a mindset that once gotten rid of, looking back you can’t understand why you ever thought that way.
… which is exactly what most power users are still doing with terminals and tooling that is as old as modern computing. Did he just inadvertently argue against his own point?
There are many great arguments for EVs, but this text missed the mark completely.
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#5Lots of us petrolheads like electric cars.
What we don't like are cars plagued by build quality issues and that we're not even _allowed_ by the manufacturer to wrench on it ourselves (a quality we also strongly dislike about modern ICE cars as well). The black box nature is what makes it antithetical.
The rates that Teslas are getting totaled out for what should be repairable issues are also a hot issue for us.
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#6Agreed.
However... I'd still argue if you have a car today that you own... Stretch ownership to another 5 years.
I'm currently on vacation in the lake District in the UK and the car I have is Volvo T8 twin engine. I can't charge this thing anywhere. Charging spots in hotels aren't available to non residents, the solitary charging spots in car parks are taken, and the cottage I'm in has a very strange weak circuit that I can't charge the car from. Anecdotally I've seen no Tesla's or Porsche Taycan, or even Leaf's... Those were left behind at the M6.
It feels like infrastructure has yet to really catch up to need. It will. But today, if you still own a hybrid, ICE, twin engine... Keep it a while longer.
By that time Polestar and the like will have incredible cars available for less than the current price. The wait will be worth it.
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#7Lots of us petrolheads like electric cars. What we don't like are cars plagued by build quality issues and that we're not even _allowed_ by the manufacturer to wrench on it ourselves (a quality we also strongly dislike about modern ICE cars as well). The black box nature is what makes it antithetical. The rates that Teslas are getting totaled out for what should be repairable issues are also a hot issue for us.
Wait, does that mean that you can pick up salvage title Teslas…?
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#8Petrol cars have significantly longer driving range, which is important for transport efficiency.
Petrol cars are significantly cheaper to buy.
Petrol cars refuel significantly faster than electronic cars recharge.
Petrol cars don't have a costly battery which degrades over time and pollutes.
Re: The Next Car You Buy Should Be Electric
#9Lots of us petrolheads like electric cars. What we don't like are cars plagued by build quality issues and that we're not even _allowed_ by the manufacturer to wrench on it ourselves (a quality we also strongly dislike about modern ICE cars as well). The black box nature is what makes it antithetical. The rates that Teslas are getting totaled out for what should be repairable issues are also a hot issue for us.
Wait, does that mean that you can pick up salvage title Teslas…?
Yes, but you won't be able to supercharge them (if not now, then at some point soon).
Rich Rebuilds has gone over the headaches of this extensively and you'll notice the last year or so of his content has nothing to do with Teslas.
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#10Still doesn't work for my use case. I commute on public transport, live in an apartment with only on-street parking, there is limited on-street charging but it's massively oversubscribed. Mostly I drive longer distances for hiking trips, weekends away music festivals, visiting family etc. Very few of these destinations have charging options. I've seen how this can work, I drove an electric Hyundai Ionic as a hire car…
A big problem in my city is that street charging stations have to compete with regular parking spots, so a spot is either just a normal parking spot, or blessed for EVs only. Bit of a thorn in the eye of less rich people who can’t afford an EV.
Second, they’re competing with bicycle parking and bicycle lanes. Spots are getting fewer because of this.
Third, cars are getting larger, leading to larger parking spots required, and therefore a lower spot density.