Basically I am a programming novice and I am wondering if I can work with some great programmers. What is the best way to get such opportunity?
Ask HN: I need someone who is 100 times better than me
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Re: Ask HN: I need someone who is 100 times better than me
#2Short answer: Contribute to open-source.
Re: Ask HN: I need someone who is 100 times better than me
#31) Open source
2) Got Money?
3) Got passion to work for next to nothing on something that will probably fail?
4) You don't even need someone "better" than you to learn, just be deliberate about learning what you can from your peers. If you get stuck, find a new gig.
I struggled with the same thing in the past, and thinking I couldn't learn from people just because I thought I was smarter than them really held me back (Also working on municipal tax collection software as a city employee, but I'm pretty sure being less of a cocky prick would have helped)
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#41) Open source 2) Got Money? 3) Got passion to work for next to nothing on something that will probably fail? 4) You don't even need someone "better" than you to learn, just be deliberate about learning what you can from your peers. If you get stuck, find a new gig. I struggled with the same thing in the past, and thinking I couldn't learn from people just because I thought I was smarter than them really held me back…
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#51) Open source 2) Got Money? 3) Got passion to work for next to nothing on something that will probably fail? 4) You don't even need someone "better" than you to learn, just be deliberate about learning what you can from your peers. If you get stuck, find a new gig. I struggled with the same thing in the past, and thinking I couldn't learn from people just because I thought I was smarter than them really held me back…
Realistically would any programmer want a novice to contribute other than documentation? Edit: I have already been doing the things you are saying (learning from everyone) but I feel I am not progressing fast enough.
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#61) Open source 2) Got Money? 3) Got passion to work for next to nothing on something that will probably fail? 4) You don't even need someone "better" than you to learn, just be deliberate about learning what you can from your peers. If you get stuck, find a new gig. I struggled with the same thing in the past, and thinking I couldn't learn from people just because I thought I was smarter than them really held me back…
Realistically would any programmer want a novice to contribute other than documentation? Edit: I have already been doing the things you are saying (learning from everyone) but I feel I am not progressing fast enough.
Why do you single out documentation?
Re: Ask HN: I need someone who is 100 times better than me
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Realistically would any programmer want a novice to contribute other than documentation? Edit: I have already been doing the things you are saying (learning from everyone) but I feel I am not progressing fast enough.
Why do you single out documentation?
Nothing wrong with documentation. I would do it just not the only thing I want to be doing. Do you know a good road map to make substantial contributions?
Re: Ask HN: I need someone who is 100 times better than me
#81) Open source 2) Got Money? 3) Got passion to work for next to nothing on something that will probably fail? 4) You don't even need someone "better" than you to learn, just be deliberate about learning what you can from your peers. If you get stuck, find a new gig. I struggled with the same thing in the past, and thinking I couldn't learn from people just because I thought I was smarter than them really held me back…
Realistically would any programmer want a novice to contribute other than documentation? Edit: I have already been doing the things you are saying (learning from everyone) but I feel I am not progressing fast enough.
Yes. Working on the same problem space for a long time can get boring, and a fresh face willing to take it on makes it worth the time investing in code reviews and mentoring to provide continuity for users. Professionally at least, I would happily pair program with an intern for 6 months nonstop to bump the bus number on all my responsibilities.
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Whats your geo? We're looking for interns...
Re: Ask HN: I need someone who is 100 times better than me
#91) Open source 2) Got Money? 3) Got passion to work for next to nothing on something that will probably fail? 4) You don't even need someone "better" than you to learn, just be deliberate about learning what you can from your peers. If you get stuck, find a new gig. I struggled with the same thing in the past, and thinking I couldn't learn from people just because I thought I was smarter than them really held me back…
Realistically would any programmer want a novice to contribute other than documentation? Edit: I have already been doing the things you are saying (learning from everyone) but I feel I am not progressing fast enough.
On just about any project basic bug fixes would be good. You know the easy noncritical stuff that tends to get overlooked. Fix up the slapdash UIs open source apps tend to have. Tests, beat on a library's interface in a way that someone too close to the code base might not think of. Depending on the app, data import\export might be a good place to start. It rather depends on one's area of interest.
Re: Ask HN: I need someone who is 100 times better than me
#10Download Wordpress and try making a plugin. Play around with it and see what good programmers have done. You can try this for other software too (pick your language). It's one way of working with great programmers.