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Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android

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Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android

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related news: https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2021/6/huawei-launches-produc...

Some more hints at what’s in it in the technical release notes:

https://gitee.com/openharmony/docs/blob/master/en/release-no...

Looks they have added a new JS UI framework at os level. Probably to replace Android eventually.

Going pure JS (rather than Android Java or something else) I think will be a big plus for developer adaption.

Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android

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Just wanted to point out that this whole ecosystem is built on the principle of "censorship first." If you take a look at the docs [1], you'll notice that they're not hosted on GitHub (which allows content critical of the CCP), but rather on Gitee, which is a Chinese-grown alternative. Scroll down to the bottom of the page, and you'll see the option "违法和不良信息举报中心": "Control Panel for Reporting Illegal and Harmful Information." Virtually all Chinese apps are designed from the ground-up to support purging information deemed undesirable (there's a great in-depth discussion of this system from someone who worked at 抖音, China's TikTok) [2].

I find it ironic that this new toolkit, designed to entice we software developers onto platforms designed for total Chinese state control, is being released on the eve of the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Masacre. The technology may be interesting, but please also consider the baked-in issues around censorship and privacy.

[1] https://gitee.com/openharmony/docs/blob/master/en/release-no...

[2] https://www.protocol.com/china/i-built-bytedance-censorship-...

Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android

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>Only Secure Apps Apply

>When you enable Pure Mode on HarmonyOS 2, only apps that have undergone the stringent testing for listing in the HUAWEI AppGallery can be installed. And for an even higher layer of security, installed apps are constantly monitored to detect potential risks and security infringements.

At least you can turn the BS down on this one unlike iOS.

Also that page lagged a bit on my pinephone.

Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android

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Just wanted to point out that this whole ecosystem is built on the principle of "censorship first." If you take a look at the docs [1], you'll notice that they're not hosted on GitHub (which allows content critical of the CCP), but rather on Gitee, which is a Chinese-grown alternative. Scroll down to the bottom of the page, and you'll see the option "违法和不良信息举报中心": "Control Panel for Reporting Illegal and Harmful Info…

This doesn't sound any worse than iOS. If you're worried about personal computing you can rest assured that it died for the average consumer a decade ago.

Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android

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Just wanted to point out that this whole ecosystem is built on the principle of "censorship first." If you take a look at the docs [1], you'll notice that they're not hosted on GitHub (which allows content critical of the CCP), but rather on Gitee, which is a Chinese-grown alternative. Scroll down to the bottom of the page, and you'll see the option "违法和不良信息举报中心": "Control Panel for Reporting Illegal and Harmful Info…

Honestly is it any less "baked in" than the pre-eminent Western powers? Can't the US govt achieve similar levels of censorship by serving NSLs and shutting a piece of information down? They perhaps may not need do it as rigorously as China because the real power lies in private mega-corps. As long as they survive, any old President will do, as long as he's not a loose canon like the last one.

I still can't think of a single world nation that puts real power in the hands of the people. There are always power structures and their protection even from the very people they ostensibly serve. I wonder in what way is China more evil than the major Western nations?

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