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Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and MRNA Vaccine

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Re: Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and MRNA Vaccine

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There are also theories about suddenly becoming active again after a year and a half of relative lack of exercise, compounded with constant psychological stresses.

I would not be surprised if what Israel sees as a Pfizer issue and the US thinks of as a Moderna issue, an interesting contradiction, that this is what is actually happening. Especially since it seems to be over-represented in young active males.

Re: Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and MRNA Vaccine

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I just took my mother-in-law off of life support last night, after her medical team confirmed she was brain dead.

This was after about 10 days of trying to save her after a sudden cardiac arrest 3 hours after her second vaccine dose.

The team ran numerous tests. Early 60s, healthy, no heart problems. Eventually, they decided that absent any other explanation, they think the vaccine had something to do with it. It's been submitted to VAERS.

The legitimate fear of creating vaccine hesitancy in the population is suppressing reporting on these events. I'm sure they are rare, but I suspect not as rare as we think.

Re: Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and MRNA Vaccine

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There are also theories about suddenly becoming active again after a year and a half of relative lack of exercise, compounded with constant psychological stresses. I would not be surprised if what Israel sees as a Pfizer issue and the US thinks of as a Moderna issue, an interesting contradiction, that this is what is actually happening. Especially since it seems to be over-represented in young active males.

the suspected rate is one case in 3k-6k vaccinations according to the article, which is a prevalence 5x-25x higher among the vaccinated than in the average population. Change in exercise regimen does not explain that. I'm not even sure that is associated with myocarditis.

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Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and COVID-19 vaccination in young men One in 3000 Thoughts?

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> The COVID-19 vaccine made by Pfizer and BioNTech appears to put young men at elevated risk of developing a heart muscle inflammation called myocarditis, researchers in Israel say. In a report submitted today to the Israeli Ministry of Health, they conclude that between one in 3000 and one in 6000 men ages 16 to 24 who received the vaccine developed the rare condition. But most cases were mild and resolved within a few weeks, which is typical for myocarditis.

1 in 3000 might not seem that bad, but what is the fatality rate for Covid for males aged 16 to 24? Wouldn't surprise me if it is even lower...

Re: Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and MRNA Vaccine

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I just took my mother-in-law off of life support last night, after her medical team confirmed she was brain dead. This was after about 10 days of trying to save her after a sudden cardiac arrest 3 hours after her second vaccine dose. The team ran numerous tests. Early 60s, healthy, no heart problems. Eventually, they decided that absent any other explanation, they think the vaccine had something to do with it. It's b…

That is awful. I’m sorry for your loss.

I hope that front-line medical professionals are not reluctant to report potential vaccine injuries. I would be surprised if they are; there are decades of training and experience around such reporting.

Unfortunately it is impossible to completely rule out the potential for injury or death even for routine vaccines, which is why (in the U.S. at least) there is a federally administered vaccine compensation program. In case you’re not aware, CDC-approved COVID vaccines are covered under a “countermeasures” program administered by HHS. Of course that is no comfort; it can’t bring back a loved one.

I hope this post does not come across as callous. I have some idea of what you are going through; I recently lost a parent too, although it was to cancer.

Re: Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and MRNA Vaccine

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Israel reports link between rare cases of heart inflammation and COVID-19 vaccination in young men One in 3000 Thoughts?

Quote for context: > The COVID-19 vaccine made by Pfizer and BioNTech appears to put young men at elevated risk of developing a heart muscle inflammation called myocarditis, researchers in Israel say. In a report submitted today to the Israeli Ministry of Health, they conclude that between one in 3000 and one in 6000 men ages 16 to 24 who received the vaccine developed the rare condition. But most cases were mild and…

Aren't you comparing the fatality rate of Covid against the raw number affected of this condition though?
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