Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
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Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
#2Just another incredibly sleazy move by Microsoft.
Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
#3I'm not surprised by this anymore. They've gone from full anti-trust lawsuit for Internet Explorer, to just riding the cliff edge of what they believe they can get away with. See: Skype, Teams installer, Office.
This will continue as long as it's in their interest to be in control of as much of the software stack as possible.
Another side of their underhanded marketing is where decision makers looking at collaboration or business apps are faced with the question of, "why bother evaluating something else (i.e. better) when we get this included in our Microsoft E5 license?"
Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
#4I'm not surprised by this anymore. They've gone from full anti-trust lawsuit for Internet Explorer, to just riding the cliff edge of what they believe they can get away with. See: Skype, Teams installer, Office. This will continue as long as it's in their interest to be in control of as much of the software stack as possible. Another side of their underhanded marketing is where decision makers looking at collaboratio…
My favorite is how when you right-click some highlighted text in Edge, before the "Search the web for this" button, is an additional "Search Bing for this" button.
I'm sure the product designer's thought was, "Maybe they just forgot how excellent Bing is, and they will decide to click this Bing button, rather than using the non-Bing search engine they explicitly configured before!" And not "Let's trap some accidental clicks."
Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
#5Then when I point out this sort of shit to explain why I insist in keeping Win7, people say I am nuts and that Win10 is fine.
Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
#6Why is this even surprising? Having your devices advertise to you, crying for your attention 24/7, is pretty much what push notifications are for. Why not leverage it to advertise Bing? It's not like people are going to stop using it, after all; we've proven that.
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#7The ways Microsoft wants to trick users into using edge, using all sorts of dark-patterns, has rapidly increased with the launch of chromium edge.
Opening Edge on startup, asking in Windows update-screens, putting Edge on the desktop and taskbar, asking to change to Edge when clicking on links, dissuading users when searching for browsers on bing, advertising Edge in the start-menu, it goes on...
Chromium Edge is bringing up the worst in Microsoft again...
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#8I'm sick of tech companies giving the only way to decline their preferred approach as "maybe later". No, I'm sure I don't want Bing or Edge next month either. If I change my mind I'm perfectly capable of finding the setting and even if I wasn't I'm sure it's only a DDG (or Bing I guess) search away to docs I'm almost certain you will have
Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
#9And people wonder why I still don't trust Micro$oft, even if they say they're supporting open source.
Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)
#10I'm not surprised by this anymore. They've gone from full anti-trust lawsuit for Internet Explorer, to just riding the cliff edge of what they believe they can get away with. See: Skype, Teams installer, Office. This will continue as long as it's in their interest to be in control of as much of the software stack as possible. Another side of their underhanded marketing is where decision makers looking at collaboratio…
My favorite is how when you right-click some highlighted text in Edge, before the "Search the web for this" button, is an additional "Search Bing for this" button. I'm sure the product designer's thought was, "Maybe they just forgot how excellent Bing is, and they will decide to click this Bing button, rather than using the non-Bing search engine they explicitly configured before!" And not "Let's trap some accidental…
Oh this is diabolical IMO. I just tested it to understand what's happening.
Below "search the web", there is always a "search in sidebar" option. "Sidebar" basically splits your window and loads your search in the new pane. I assume this is some custom webview, but it looks very, very similar to a new window/tab.
The kicker: only Bing search can be loaded in the sidebar. So when you change your default search engine away from Bing, the text changes to "search Bing in sidebar" -- because they didn't implement the sidebar for anyone else, but wanted to keep the option there.
Yikes.