Coffeekup

#1

Post by franckcuny » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 11:45 AM UTC

Coffeekup
coffeekup.org

Re: Coffeekup

#2

Post by wallrat » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:12 PM UTC

Looks pragmatic and useful. I've been experimenting with a similar implementation inspired by Clojure's Hiccup, but Coffekup looks mature enough to consider adopting.

Re: Coffeekup

#3

Post by yuvadam » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:19 PM UTC

wallrat wrote: post #2

Looks pragmatic and useful. I've been experimenting with a similar implementation inspired by Clojure's Hiccup, but Coffekup looks mature enough to consider adopting.

It's comforting to know that nowadays 300 watches and 20 forks on github are enough to consider software "mature".

(Nothing personal, just a reflection...)

Re: Coffeekup

#4

Post by nzoschke » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:30 PM UTC

Cute name and well executed project.

But personally, Coffeescript -> Javascript -> HTML sounds way too indirect for my taste.

I've seen this patter a few too many times at work now: the new frontend guy loves HAML, and he uses it on a project, and the next couple guys that help maintain it hate it and rewrite everything in straight up HTML.

Re: Coffeekup

#5

Post by chrisjsmith » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:33 PM UTC

Whilst I appreciate the effort that people put into these things, I really don't like this sudden obsession of adding another layer of abstraction over everything. Abstrations are hard to debug, require a learning curve of 2x the original problem and are rarely complete.

Re: Coffeekup

#6

Post by naz » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:41 PM UTC

chrisjsmith wrote: post #5

Whilst I appreciate the effort that people put into these things, I really don't like this sudden obsession of adding another layer of abstraction over everything. Abstrations are hard to debug, require a learning curve of 2x the original problem and are rarely complete.

Agreed, we should write everything in binary

Re: Coffeekup

#7

Post by johnlaudun » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:47 PM UTC

I like the thinking that go into efforts such as this, but like other commenters I do on occasion end up wondering about the fragmentation that this leads to. That worry noted, the thinking is the important point and CoffeeKup is very cool.

Re: Coffeekup

#8

Post by mikemaccana » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:52 PM UTC

I love CoffeeScript but I don't understand this. HTML / HAML / SHPAML are document languages. CoffeeScript is a programming language.

An element that contains another element isn't a function. I don't see any reason to make it one.

If you want a templating language, why not use one, rather than having an unnecessary 'space dash greater than' to indicate elements are contained within each other?

Re: Coffeekup

#9

Post by coenhyde » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:54 PM UTC

Looks fantastic.

With the traction Coffeescript is getting I wouldn't be surprised to see it eventually execute directly inside v8 or similar, bypassing the javascript compilation altogether.

Re: Coffeekup

#10

Post by chrisjsmith » Mon, Jul 04, 2011, 12:56 PM UTC

naz wrote: post #6

chrisjsmith wrote: post #5

Whilst I appreciate the effort that people put into these things, I really don't like this sudden obsession of adding another layer of abstraction over everything. Abstrations are hard to debug, require a learning curve of 2x the original problem and are rarely complete.

Agreed, we should write everything in binary

rephrase - un-necessary abstration.