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Re: Show HN: Volument – Our take on website analytics

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> Fathom, Simple Analytics, and Plausible offer bare-bones pageview- and session statistics. Like Volument, they all focus on privacy so you don't need any cookie banners outside Europe.

I am not sure I follow. Why do you still need one in Europe? And besides I think you don't need one with your competitors [0]

[0] https://nts.strzibny.name/privacy-oriented-alternatives-to-g...

Re: Show HN: Volument – Our take on website analytics

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post #3

> Fathom, Simple Analytics, and Plausible offer bare-bones pageview- and session statistics. Like Volument, they all focus on privacy so you don't need any cookie banners outside Europe. I am not sure I follow. Why do you still need one in Europe? And besides I think you don't need one with your competitors [0] [0] https://nts.strzibny.name/privacy-oriented-alternatives-to-g...

It's the local European laws. For example in Finland, where I live all analytics software must display a consent because the data is used for non-essential purposes. Applies to Volument and our competitors. More details on this doc, which is co-authored with a GDPR official:

https://volument.com/learn/data-privacy

Re: Show HN: Volument – Our take on website analytics

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Founder here (1). Here's a backstory: We launched the MVP two years ago with this HN post:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20037116

Market demand was there but the product wasn't ready for the load yet.

Fast forward two years and now it's all "perfect". The product is now useful — even for people using goaccess or similar. The main reasons include:

1. Understanding of traction and how visitors behave before they convert. You can start optimizing the causes.

2. Faster A/B testing: Volument is an order of magnitude faster than the traditional A/B testing tools.

3. Privacy-friendly. Volument is on the same line with Fathom, Plausible, or Simple Analytics when it comes to privacy.

We've built a custom stack from scratch so this is not just another pretty face to Google Analytics data. We have full control and the door is open for pretty much anything.

The parent post links to a founding story and here's a direct link to the front page:

https://volument.com

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1: Bit of myself: I'm a long-term frontend developer: the original author of semi-popular projects like jQuery Tools (2011), Head JS (2013), and Riot JS (2014). I'm also a co-founder of two other successful startups: Flowplayer (flowplayer.com) and Muut (muut.com).

Re: Show HN: Volument – Our take on website analytics

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post #6

Founder here (1). Here's a backstory: We launched the MVP two years ago with this HN post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20037116 Market demand was there but the product wasn't ready for the load yet. Fast forward two years and now it's all "perfect". The product is now useful — even for people using goaccess or similar. The main reasons include: 1. Understanding of traction and how visitors behave before they…

Hey! Cool product! I have run many A/B tests in my career, and agree that it really does take ages to get statistically relevant results, and most results don't really pan out at scale. (Though in my experience, a new button color might drive conversion just by catching the user's eye as something new, but this doesn't stick around).

How do you get A/B test results faster? New math? Or just more BS? ;)

Re: Show HN: Volument – Our take on website analytics

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Ok, you have me convinced. I'm actually going to try this. I have two separate sites I want to try it on. Is it 10k free events per site or per user account. Also, is it "catch-all" event tracking or do I have to set the event tracking up manually? Apologies if that's already mentioned on your site but I did go through the article and didn't see any mention of it.

Re: Show HN: Volument – Our take on website analytics

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post #6

Founder here (1). Here's a backstory: We launched the MVP two years ago with this HN post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20037116 Market demand was there but the product wasn't ready for the load yet. Fast forward two years and now it's all "perfect". The product is now useful — even for people using goaccess or similar. The main reasons include: 1. Understanding of traction and how visitors behave before they…

> European visitors are secretly tracked without their permission.

This is quite a claim to just throw in and not footnote or back up in any way.

Re: Show HN: Volument – Our take on website analytics

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A year ago, I found Volument's mini-manifesto "Minimalism: an undervalued development skill"[1] on HN (discussion [2]) and it resonated hard with me.

I worked in Marketing and community at DigitalOcean over five years as it scaled. I had contributed to a hodge-podge of overlapping analytics tools running in managed chaos at my company, I had watched another team get hoodwinked into a multi-year deal with a big analytics/testing tool that had been in development for months without yielding a single test, I had seen people throughout the company struggle to find answers to basic analytics questions due to the complexity of the tool stack.

I got a Volument pilot going on the public part of our site, and while the scale really strained the Volument infrastructure, I absolutely loved the opinionated and simple interface.

It was like what Netlify did for static-site hosting, applied to analytics. Volument took the 3000 views and features of a legacy provider like GA and just figured out what people actually need and boiled it down to 5.

I've changed companies since, but am excited to test this new version at my current company. The people at Volument are super-great and responsive, and if the new one is anything like the original it's going to be very useful.

[1] https://volument.com/blog/minimalism-the-most-undervalued-de... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21871491

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