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The knackerman: the toughest job in British farming

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Re: The knackerman: the toughest job in British farming

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The term "knackered" (British slang for tired or exhausted) may have derived from the term "knacker" (a slang term meaning "to kill," but also "to tire, exhaust, or wear out." [1]) And the origin of the term "knack" itself is "probably related to obsolete knack ‘sharp blow or sound’, of imitative origin (compare with Dutch knak ‘crack, snap’)" [2]

[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knackered

[2] Google's Oxford Languages' etymology

Re: The knackerman: the toughest job in British farming

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The term "knackered" (British slang for tired or exhausted) may have derived from the term "knacker" (a slang term meaning "to kill," but also "to tire, exhaust, or wear out." [1]) And the origin of the term "knack" itself is "probably related to obsolete knack ‘sharp blow or sound’, of imitative origin (compare with Dutch knak ‘crack, snap’)" [2] [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knackered [2] Google's…

"Knacker" is a somewhat oldish word for "old guy" in german - maybe related? Also comes from the word "knack" with the same meaning as in dutch.

Re: The knackerman: the toughest job in British farming

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The term "knackered" (British slang for tired or exhausted) may have derived from the term "knacker" (a slang term meaning "to kill," but also "to tire, exhaust, or wear out." [1]) And the origin of the term "knack" itself is "probably related to obsolete knack ‘sharp blow or sound’, of imitative origin (compare with Dutch knak ‘crack, snap’)" [2] [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knackered [2] Google's…

"Knacker" is a somewhat oldish word for "old guy" in german - maybe related? Also comes from the word "knack" with the same meaning as in dutch.

It's also a very derogatory word in Ireland for a member of the travelling/gypsy community.

Re: The knackerman: the toughest job in British farming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Knacker" is a somewhat oldish word for "old guy" in german - maybe related? Also comes from the word "knack" with the same meaning as in dutch.

It's also a very derogatory word in Ireland for a member of the travelling/gypsy community.

Who also used to be the knackermen back in the day, hence they became knows as the 'knackers'.

Re: The knackerman: the toughest job in British farming

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The term "knackered" (British slang for tired or exhausted) may have derived from the term "knacker" (a slang term meaning "to kill," but also "to tire, exhaust, or wear out." [1]) And the origin of the term "knack" itself is "probably related to obsolete knack ‘sharp blow or sound’, of imitative origin (compare with Dutch knak ‘crack, snap’)" [2] [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knackered [2] Google's…

On a sidenote, many speakers of English probably are unfamiliar with the pronunciation of Dutch knakken or German Knacker (ˈknakɐ, you can listen to Google Translate's rather mediocre rendition[1]). Kn in word-initial position is fairly common, and the k is not silent in these languages, nor is there an aspiration between k and n.

[1] https://translate.google.com/?sl=de&tl=en&text=Knacker%0A&op...

Re: The knackerman: the toughest job in British farming

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> (and it is generally a job done by men)

Funny that there haven't been more efforts to make such jobs more gender inclusive, as there have been for doctors, professors and CEOs. It's as if those movements are about seeking higher status rather than greater equality.

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