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Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Being overweight/obese will kill more people than COVID, and will still be killing people when COVID is eradicated. But the government is not doing a ban of HFCS by executive order.

Which is why it's baffling that gyms are closed for five months straight where I live.

And taxes on soft drinks are very low, which adds to the problem.

So many problems that could be fixed with a bit of common sense by the politicians.

Re: Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Being overweight/obese will kill more people than COVID, and will still be killing people when COVID is eradicated. But the government is not doing a ban of HFCS by executive order.

Which is why it's baffling that gyms are closed for five months straight where I live. And taxes on soft drinks are very low, which adds to the problem. So many problems that could be fixed with a bit of common sense by the politicians.

The people going to the gyms will find other ways to exercise. The people sitting at home obese are not impacted by closing gyms. If you want to prove me wrong, find some kind of report of what number of obese and morbidly obese people do weekly gym visits in the best of times?

If you want to see how the sugar tax works, look at the rollout, fallout, and repeal of the sugar tax in Chicago. It didn’t go so well.

It’s easy to call things common sense, but many of these arguments fall apart under closer inspection.

Re: Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Countries with an overweight population tend to be also countries with an ageing population and given how dominant is how you protected your elderly in the death rates, not sure the correlation means causation. The ICU doctors interviews I have seen suggest overweight people go to ICU but generally do not die unless it is combined with age or serious com-morbidity.

Re: Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Countries with an overweight population tend to be also countries with an ageing population and given how dominant is how you protected your elderly in the death rates, not sure the correlation means causation. The ICU doctors interviews I have seen suggest overweight people go to ICU but generally do not die unless it is combined with age or serious com-morbidity.

This does seem likely, but the paper claims to have taken it into consideration:

The authors acknowledged that the age structure of a country, as well as its relative wealth and reporting capacity, has an impact on covid-19 cases, hospital admissions, and deaths, but said that their findings seem to be independent of these contributory factors.

Re: Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Countries with an overweight population tend to be also countries with an ageing population and given how dominant is how you protected your elderly in the death rates, not sure the correlation means causation. The ICU doctors interviews I have seen suggest overweight people go to ICU but generally do not die unless it is combined with age or serious com-morbidity.

The US has the highest death rate and is #36th (16%) for Aging Population (% 65+).

The UK has the third highest death rate and is #24th (18.3%) for Aging Population (% 65+).

https://www.prb.org/countries-with-the-oldest-populations/

Re: Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Being overweight/obese will kill more people than COVID, and will still be killing people when COVID is eradicated. But the government is not doing a ban of HFCS by executive order.

Which is why it's baffling that gyms are closed for five months straight where I live. And taxes on soft drinks are very low, which adds to the problem. So many problems that could be fixed with a bit of common sense by the politicians.

Every study and simple math says the same thing. Exercise is the least effective way to lose weight. The amount of exercise you have to do just burn 500 calories is far more than most people will do.

Besides, there are other ways to exercise.

The last point, if you overeat anything you will gain weight.

Re: Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Countries with an overweight population tend to be also countries with an ageing population and given how dominant is how you protected your elderly in the death rates, not sure the correlation means causation. The ICU doctors interviews I have seen suggest overweight people go to ICU but generally do not die unless it is combined with age or serious com-morbidity.

The US has the highest death rate and is #36th (16%) for Aging Population (% 65+). The UK has the third highest death rate and is #24th (18.3%) for Aging Population (% 65+). https://www.prb.org/countries-with-the-oldest-populations/

But it’s also a function of how well you protected your elderly

Re: Covid-19: Highest death rates seen in countries with most overweight populations

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Being overweight/obese will kill more people than COVID, and will still be killing people when COVID is eradicated. But the government is not doing a ban of HFCS by executive order.

As long as the corn lobby exists, HFCS will not be banned.
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