Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
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Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#2Sad to see this practice. I wonder why can’t google hire them as regular data center employees and pay them better wages.
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#3Sad to see this practice. I wonder why can’t google hire them as regular data center employees and pay them better wages.
I don't think there is any reason why they can't, they certainly have the money for it, they simply don't want to.
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#4Sad to see this practice. I wonder why can’t google hire them as regular data center employees and pay them better wages.
I don't think there is any reason why they can't, they certainly have the money for it, they simply don't want to.
Unfortunately there just isn't enough of an intensive to pay more for the same labor. If contractors stop making them self available for the work, they may have butter luck becoming employees.
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#5i just left a 3+ year stint as a contractor at Apple. Some of the stuff from the article rings a bit true to my experience (we get "sad grey apple badges" and apple employees get colored apple badges, we don't get to go to any corporate events (even though we get the e-mails to attend with the asterik at the bottom loljk) but on the whole i always didnt really feel like a second class citizen too much.
that being said, every 3 years wondering if my contract was going to get resigned was a bit nerve wracking. im much happer in the past 3 weeks being fulltime somewhere else :).
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#6Sad to see this practice. I wonder why can’t google hire them as regular data center employees and pay them better wages.
I have friends that have the same setup at their jobs at Intel in Portland. Its not just Google.
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#7Sad to see this practice. I wonder why can’t google hire them as regular data center employees and pay them better wages.
I don't think there is any reason why they can't, they certainly have the money for it, they simply don't want to.
Yup I totally agree this why I was a little surprised they make huge profits why not hire them as employees
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think there is any reason why they can't, they certainly have the money for it, they simply don't want to.
Unfortunately there just isn't enough of an intensive to pay more for the same labor. If contractors stop making them self available for the work, they may have butter luck becoming employees.
> If contractors stop making them self available for the work, they may have butter luck becoming employees.
There will always be a steady supply of people willing to work in shitty conditions because either the employer is a big name (Google) or they have no other alternative to put food on the table.
The latter aspect is why government regulation and minimum standards are the only way to prevent exploitation.
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#9Does anyone know if Google uses these folks via a "services" type contract or a "staff augmentation" contract? That is, is the data center floor 100% from one company, with someone from that company directing work?
The 2 year limit suggests "staff aug", as that's a tactic to avoid them being classed as employees. If it were run like a service, there's no need to roll them off every 2 years.
Re: Forced unemployment and second-class status: Google's data center contractors
#10i just left a 3+ year stint as a contractor at Apple. Some of the stuff from the article rings a bit true to my experience (we get "sad grey apple badges" and apple employees get colored apple badges, we don't get to go to any corporate events (even though we get the e-mails to attend with the asterik at the bottom loljk) but on the whole i always didnt really feel like a second class citizen too much. that being sai…
I can totally understand what it feels to miss out while seeing others enjoy at the same time.