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Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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Context: It's because the students admitted last year requested to defer starting until this year due to COVID, limiting the available space for new applicants.

Edit: Also exacerbated by more applicants this year, I suppose due to reduced entry requirements, again due to COVID.

Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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So when we remove the legacies and school fund donators (roughly half) - about 40 to 50 percent of the class, athletes (affirmative action for rich whites with relatively lower credentials and scores) - about 10-20 percent of the class, and regular affirmative action ( about 15 percent of the class and mainly affluent politically connected blacks and latinos). The remainder is the group based on traditional credentials.

The academic reputation of these schools is disproportionately from that remainder group.

The rest of the world just has an exam system. Interesting way of comparing the systems.

Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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Context: It's because the students admitted last year requested to defer starting until this year due to COVID, limiting the available space for new applicants. Edit: Also exacerbated by more applicants this year, I suppose due to reduced entry requirements, again due to COVID.

Admission rates have also been trending downwards per the graph posted on the article.

Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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Context: It's because the students admitted last year requested to defer starting until this year due to COVID, limiting the available space for new applicants. Edit: Also exacerbated by more applicants this year, I suppose due to reduced entry requirements, again due to COVID.

Looking at the graph that they provided, it seems that admittance rate has been slowly dropping for a few years now. I'd expect it to bounce up above 4% next year due to the lack of deferring students, but I wonder if their admittance percentage will hit 3.98% or less through natural growth in the upcoming years.

Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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It's a shame that we're here in 2021 and the best we can do is basically just "selection bias." Basically all universities have no statistical proof that they can educate people beyond this. This is not to say that the schools are bad, but most of the education is simply due to the types of peers you have, not really due to the school itself.

Princeton and Harvard admit, for the most part, people who already excelled significantly in high school. Such excellence is already indicative of ability.

Ideally our fixation would be on a hypothetical institution that admits people entirely at random, and through some means (whether authoritarian, or montessori, waldorf, immersion, etc.) shows that beyond a reasonable doubt the school itself has improved the persons educational prospects.

You'd think by now, some sort of Google-like data driven school would've emerged by now for K-12 and higher ed.

Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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post #4

So when we remove the legacies and school fund donators (roughly half) - about 40 to 50 percent of the class, athletes (affirmative action for rich whites with relatively lower credentials and scores) - about 10-20 percent of the class, and regular affirmative action ( about 15 percent of the class and mainly affluent politically connected blacks and latinos). The remainder is the group based on traditional credentia…

>rich whites

rich jews

Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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Context: It's because the students admitted last year requested to defer starting until this year due to COVID, limiting the available space for new applicants. Edit: Also exacerbated by more applicants this year, I suppose due to reduced entry requirements, again due to COVID.

re: admittance rate trends.

Low admittance rate is a plus for most college rankings so institutions are incentivized to engage in efforts to increase the size at the top of the funnel.

Disclaimer: Princeton alumnus.

Re: Princeton admits record-low 3.98% of applicants

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So when we remove the legacies and school fund donators (roughly half) - about 40 to 50 percent of the class, athletes (affirmative action for rich whites with relatively lower credentials and scores) - about 10-20 percent of the class, and regular affirmative action ( about 15 percent of the class and mainly affluent politically connected blacks and latinos). The remainder is the group based on traditional credentia…

>> and mainly affluent politically connected blacks and latinos

Where in the world do you get that idea? I challenge you to provide a good source for the claim that the AA students are either affluent OR politically connected.

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