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NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules

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Many billions of pounds are being wasted on this. This failed app and system has had ten times the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance mission budgeted for it.

Source?

A quick google shows the app will cost c£35 million[1], while the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance programme is $2.7 billion[2]. 10 times $2.7 billion is $27 billion so you are out by a large factor.

[1] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2020/09/total-cost-of-nhs-cont... [2] https://www.planetary.org/articles/cost-of-perseverance-in-c...

Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules

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Irrespective of ones own feelings about this particular app: isn't it interesting that Google and Apple have the power to collect all our location data, but can refuse our democratic governments access to that data even on a voluntary basis?

Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules

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Irrespective of ones own feelings about this particular app: isn't it interesting that Google and Apple have the power to collect all our location data, but can refuse our democratic governments access to that data even on a voluntary basis?

Apple and Google are just upholding their part of the agreement.

Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules

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Many billions of pounds are being wasted on this. This failed app and system has had ten times the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance mission budgeted for it.

Source? A quick google shows the app will cost c£35 million[1], while the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance programme is $2.7 billion[2]. 10 times $2.7 billion is $27 billion so you are out by a large factor. [1] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2020/09/total-cost-of-nhs-cont... [2] https://www.planetary.org/articles/cost-of-perseverance-in-c...

The entire Test & Trace costed about 37 billion (at the latest estimate) and ministers admitted it has only a marginal impact on limiting spread:

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/03/19/covid-19-test-and-trace...

Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? A quick google shows the app will cost c£35 million[1], while the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance programme is $2.7 billion[2]. 10 times $2.7 billion is $27 billion so you are out by a large factor. [1] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2020/09/total-cost-of-nhs-cont... [2] https://www.planetary.org/articles/cost-of-perseverance-in-c...

The entire Test & Trace costed about 37 billion (at the latest estimate) and ministers admitted it has only a marginal impact on limiting spread: https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/03/19/covid-19-test-and-trace...

This article is about the app though - which was £35 million.

Why add in 36.9 billion of other costs? (other than to distort it to make it look much more expensive than it is?)

Re: NHS Covid-19 app update blocked for breaking Apple and Google's rules

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Many billions of pounds are being wasted on this. This failed app and system has had ten times the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance mission budgeted for it.

Source? A quick google shows the app will cost c£35 million[1], while the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance programme is $2.7 billion[2]. 10 times $2.7 billion is $27 billion so you are out by a large factor. [1] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2020/09/total-cost-of-nhs-cont... [2] https://www.planetary.org/articles/cost-of-perseverance-in-c...

There's a lot of misleading information flying around about how much the app costs.

The budget for the overall NHS Test and Trace system was £37bn last time I checked, and lots of news outlets seem to be trying to conflate that budget with either the cost of the tracing system (which didn't work very well) or the cost of the app. In reality, the vast majority of the spend has been on testing, and some of that budget likely remains unspent.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? A quick google shows the app will cost c£35 million[1], while the overall cost of the Mars Perseverance programme is $2.7 billion[2]. 10 times $2.7 billion is $27 billion so you are out by a large factor. [1] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2020/09/total-cost-of-nhs-cont... [2] https://www.planetary.org/articles/cost-of-perseverance-in-c...

There's a lot of misleading information flying around about how much the app costs. The budget for the overall NHS Test and Trace system was £37bn last time I checked, and lots of news outlets seem to be trying to conflate that budget with either the cost of the tracing system (which didn't work very well) or the cost of the app. In reality, the vast majority of the spend has been on testing, and some of that budget…

Agreed - framing it as "the app + system cost £37bn" would make you think that the app cost billions, rather than the app being approximately 1/10th of 1 percent of that figure.
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