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Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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I feel sad somehow. Huawei was the only company which was going toe-to-toe against Google and Apple in the AI space. I saw it in their phones, which were better than many others, and had even better computational photography than Pixels of the same generation, in my opinion.

Combined with their chip design expertise - they were making chips that were as good or better than the Snapdragons, its clear why the US needed them kneecapped.

We as consumers lose when competition is stifled.

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I feel sad somehow. Huawei was the only company which was going toe-to-toe against Google and Apple in the AI space. I saw it in their phones, which were better than many others, and had even better computational photography than Pixels of the same generation, in my opinion. Combined with their chip design expertise - they were making chips that were as good or better than the Snapdragons, its clear why the US needed…

The issue is that it's a government owned entity, one that's totalitarian, genocidal and their technologies are largely stolen.

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I feel sad somehow. Huawei was the only company which was going toe-to-toe against Google and Apple in the AI space. I saw it in their phones, which were better than many others, and had even better computational photography than Pixels of the same generation, in my opinion. Combined with their chip design expertise - they were making chips that were as good or better than the Snapdragons, its clear why the US needed…

The issue is that it's a government owned entity, one that's totalitarian, genocidal and their technologies are largely stolen.

The grandparent was alleging that their photo tech was better than Google’s. So from whom did they steal it from?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that it's a government owned entity, one that's totalitarian, genocidal and their technologies are largely stolen.

The grandparent was alleging that their photo tech was better than Google’s. So from whom did they steal it from?

They were stealing the talent.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The grandparent was alleging that their photo tech was better than Google’s. So from whom did they steal it from?

They were stealing the talent.

You can't steal people. You can kidnap people and you can hire people. Maybe if you kill them you can steal the body? You sound like an anti-piracy advertisement. "Piracy is theft".

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The grandparent was alleging that their photo tech was better than Google’s. So from whom did they steal it from?

They were stealing the talent.

You mean, paying them well?

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were stealing the talent.

You can't steal people. You can kidnap people and you can hire people. Maybe if you kill them you can steal the body? You sound like an anti-piracy advertisement. "Piracy is theft".

Just to nitpick, because we are on HN: I remember a story of a cartel in Latin America kidnapping networking experts to force them to develop their technology stack. That may count as "stealing" talents?

Not sure if that's what I remember, but here is a Wired article: https://www.wired.com/2012/11/zeta-radio/

Edit: of course I'm not implying that Huawei does this...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were stealing the talent.

You mean, paying them well?

You could make the case that "stealing" talent is in terms of targeting hiring people where the training and research costs were footed by someone else.

Then again, as you pointed out, you could also make the case that they weren't properly compensated.

Re: Huawei deactivates AI and cloud business group in restructuring

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I feel sad somehow. Huawei was the only company which was going toe-to-toe against Google and Apple in the AI space. I saw it in their phones, which were better than many others, and had even better computational photography than Pixels of the same generation, in my opinion. Combined with their chip design expertise - they were making chips that were as good or better than the Snapdragons, its clear why the US needed…

From what I can tell, It’s just restructuring, and basically undoing a questionable prior organizational division at that. They have a lot of research centers around the world and don’t seem to slow down their AI efforts at all.
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