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Federal government considering ID verification for social media accounts

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Re: Federal government considering ID verification for social media accounts

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This isn't so weird. I needed to send a picture of my id to coinbase to unlock my account, and needed to use my SSN to create one at all. Monetary fraud brought that on us, to they're probably thinking of social media as "societal fraud" or something ...

Re: Federal government considering ID verification for social media accounts

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For a long time, the internet anonymity was considered to be main differentiator between modern, free America, and more strict regimes.

However, until privacy is guaranteed by constitution, there will be always a temptation to make things easier by tying your personal id numbers to accounts.

Re: Federal government considering ID verification for social media accounts

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Of course it's Australia. It's always Australia, New Zealand or the UK.

I simply don't understand why governments in "free" countries feel that they need to meddle with every aspect of people's lives. I'm starting to think that it's better if things I like don't become popular, so that governments don't start meddling with them.

Re: Federal government considering ID verification for social media accounts

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post #6

Of course it's Australia. It's always Australia, New Zealand or the UK. I simply don't understand why governments in "free" countries feel that they need to meddle with every aspect of people's lives. I'm starting to think that it's better if things I like don't become popular, so that governments don't start meddling with them.

I should start by saying I'm not very keen on having government mandated IDs in order to be able to use a internet service.

I'd also point out that increasingly companies are forcing such policies - using mobile phones - that in the end is the same result. That logging into many services require use of a mobile phone and/or a credit card. One might argue this is better than a government id/validation system, but in practice the government gets access to all the data anyway and now you have that friction and you've now distributed the data to multiple databases for whatever uses.

I'd prefer to not have either.

That there are significant problems in the world that might be improved upon with a lack of anonymity. Be that social media bullying, slander, the review 'industry' - or just the more dark aspects of human nature that anonymity allows - such as people getting the dopamine hit of attacking a person.

There are other things that anonymity allowed that are good - whistleblowers, people under restrictive regimes being able to communicate. Sometimes it's freeing to be able to say what you really think anonymously.

So what to do? There probably isn't any one single answer. That many services will require your identity to use. Having a government ID system if correctly engineered and administored - that arguably actually might be preferable for some services.

There could be services services that allow anonymity. The distinction could be reach or some other mechanisms.

'Freedom' is an odd word as it is used in the US. I don't see people generally talking about it wrt companies requiring ID for example - and yes often there is no or little choice. If it's anything restrictive from the government then immediately it's a big deal. It's a weird kind of freedom - people are free to by cyber bullied, to be erroneously attacked and lose their jobs, to erode trust - from reviews, to news, to science and so forth. To erode democracy itself. That's apparently not a problem because we are 'free'. It doesn't make much sense to me.

Re: Federal government considering ID verification for social media accounts

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Weaker groups (such as the victims of family, domestic and sexual violence) are the ones who are protected most by anonymity.

Take away anonymity and the abusers will have a much easier time finding their victims (back). And/or the abused will need to forgo using social media.

Re: Federal government considering ID verification for social media accounts

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How could this possibly be helpful for victims of domestic violence? I mean obviously that's not the real reason, but I don't even understand what the "reason" is.

People caught on to the child porn excuse after epstein, so now they moved onto domestic violence.
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