Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
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Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#2Not sure about this - I don’t think government leaders or anybody should be censored.
Better to have public health messages as part of the platform than to censor
It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent
(Clearly the content in question is wrong; but in other cases, WHO and others been proven incorrect - eg on masks and asymptotic transmission)
Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo chambers of misinformation, but we want to live in a democratic society too...
Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#3Not sure about this - I don’t think government leaders or anybody should be censored. Better to have public health messages as part of the platform than to censor It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent (Clearly the content in question is wrong; but in other cases, WHO and others been proven incorrect - eg on masks and asymptotic transmission) Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo cha…
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Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#4Crazy people don't know they are crazy. Facebook from now on will decide what is correct and what is wrong, even though they don't know what is correct and what is wrong.
Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#5Wait, Trump promoting chloroquine as a miracle cure and recommending bleach injections were okay, but Maduro doing the same can get him banned?
Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#6Not sure about this - I don’t think government leaders or anybody should be censored. Better to have public health messages as part of the platform than to censor It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent (Clearly the content in question is wrong; but in other cases, WHO and others been proven incorrect - eg on masks and asymptotic transmission) Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo cha…
There is a big difference between OMS and populist leaders like Maduro/Bolsonaro/Trump.
What OMS said about masks and asymptomatic cases were the best we known about the pandemic at the current time (we still didn't have many studies on how the virus propagated). Once it became clear that masks helps and asymptomatic cases are super spreaders, OMS changed the tone quickly.
Populist leaders say things about remedies that study after study shown that there is no efficacy and they never change their tone because it would mean they're wrong. Instead, they simple jump for the next "miracle" solution.
Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#7Facebook is a private platform, so they should be able to censor whatever they want as long as it is not discriminatory against protected characteristics.
Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#8Not sure about this - I don’t think government leaders or anybody should be censored. Better to have public health messages as part of the platform than to censor It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent (Clearly the content in question is wrong; but in other cases, WHO and others been proven incorrect - eg on masks and asymptotic transmission) Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo cha…
Another problem is that something like this can function as "evidence" for the claim. There are large groups of people who believe that censorship like this validates a worldview in which powerful interests are censoring true information in order to maintain control. It's similar to the Streisand Effect or "Banned in Boston" but for belief rather than attention.
It seems like the better solution is to have an outpouring of discussion around how and why the claim is wrong. Let others ridicule the statements, rather than shutting down discussion. You'll never convince everyone, but at least you'd avoid the validation-by-censorship effect.
I could be wrong on this though. I don't really have any evidence or data that would show doing it one way is better than the other. I suppose I simply prefer open discussion.
Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#9Not sure about this - I don’t think government leaders or anybody should be censored. Better to have public health messages as part of the platform than to censor It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent (Clearly the content in question is wrong; but in other cases, WHO and others been proven incorrect - eg on masks and asymptotic transmission) Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo cha…
> It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent
"Hate" is a pretty Orwellian[1] word in this context, with a meaning pretty far from its usage a couple of decades ago.
Most usage I've seen has a distictively political bend.
E.g. "X are stupid and science proves it!" is not hate when X is "conservatives" but is when X is "muslims".
[1] see the section on meaningless words: https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_poli...
> Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo chambers of misinformation, but we want to live in a democratic society too
If we want less echo chambers we'd need to stop censoring and banning those who disagree with us, otherwise they go elsewhere, encountering those similarly ostracized and form a natural echo chamber.
Re: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19
#10Not sure about this - I don’t think government leaders or anybody should be censored. Better to have public health messages as part of the platform than to censor It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent (Clearly the content in question is wrong; but in other cases, WHO and others been proven incorrect - eg on masks and asymptotic transmission) Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo cha…
There is a big difference between OMS and populist leaders like Maduro/Bolsonaro/Trump. What OMS said about masks and asymptomatic cases were the best we known about the pandemic at the current time (we still didn't have many studies on how the virus propagated). Once it became clear that masks helps and asymptomatic cases are super spreaders, OMS changed the tone quickly. Populist leaders say things about remedies t…
Also, context matters. OMS avoided recommending masks at the start of the pandemic since no study showed the efficacy of it, and there was no mass production of masks yet. So recommending it for general population would only generate shortage of masks for those who needed (frontline medics and nurses treating the cases). So this is why they're so against it.