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Tony Hsieh bankrolled his followers, who enabled his risky lifestyle

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US-centric views of love have evolved more towards ‘if it feels right, do it’

It feels odd to tell anyone ‘no’ because people think you are judging them, so most just stay quiet.

In a different culture, Tony may have survived if people felt comfortable questioning dangerous behavior.

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“In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.”

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“In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.”

C.S. Lewis, Abolition of Man.

It's the epitome of unreasonable expectations: a self-fulfilling prophecy by setup. "Yes men" are terrible, especially if they're there to mooch rather than question or be more than good weather "friends."

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US-centric views of love have evolved more towards ‘if it feels right, do it’ It feels odd to tell anyone ‘no’ because people think you are judging them, so most just stay quiet. In a different culture, Tony may have survived if people felt comfortable questioning dangerous behavior.

There’s a Russian saying, “Your friends are the ones who can tell you ‘no.’”

Re: Tony Hsieh bankrolled his followers, who enabled his risky lifestyle

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US-centric views of love have evolved more towards ‘if it feels right, do it’ It feels odd to tell anyone ‘no’ because people think you are judging them, so most just stay quiet. In a different culture, Tony may have survived if people felt comfortable questioning dangerous behavior.

There’s a Russian saying, “Your friends are the ones who can tell you ‘no.’”

These truisms tend only to apply to people who are subject to social pressure, a feature that goes away when you are wealthy enough.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a Russian saying, “Your friends are the ones who can tell you ‘no.’”

These truisms tend only to apply to people who are subject to social pressure, a feature that goes away when you are wealthy enough.

People who do not listen to their friends are already dead.

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US-centric views of love have evolved more towards ‘if it feels right, do it’ It feels odd to tell anyone ‘no’ because people think you are judging them, so most just stay quiet. In a different culture, Tony may have survived if people felt comfortable questioning dangerous behavior.

It's not contributing much to the discussion to just say "This." but man I really just want to say, indeed as someone who isn't originally from an American culture but now resides in America: the observation you make is profound and so important, and I hope everyone considers this and thinks about this.

Because I know exactly what you're talking about and I'm struggling with this so much, about being supportive of our friends on various decisions they make sometimes even when we don't think deep down it's the right thing in some situations, but we're afraid to say it for an increasing amount of reasons: criticism from woke culture, being afraid of being seen as bossy, party-pooper, disagreeable, puritan. But friends are friends, give them honesty, show them the doubt you feel, tell them your gut feeling. Yeah it'll take some work to make it palatable, but do it, give the hard take that you really should.

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I didn't know about this.

I can't open the link, but I read https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/26/technology/tony-hsieh-dea... and the whole thing seems classic untreated bipolar disorder.

I wonder how much of SV shenanigans can be attributed to manic breakdowns. There was already a "hypomanic advantage" meme going around a while ago; and, of course, thinking you can slightly toe the line towards a controled flirt with mania is classical bipolar anosognosia.

PSA: For many years, I self-administered the Young's Mania Ratings Scale everytime I felt the scales begin to tip. It's very short and impressively insightful. You might not know what mania is actually is, and if you live a high-intensity lifestyle you owe it to yourself to take it just once:

https://psychology-tools.com/test/young-mania-rating-scale

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