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Dear Young Artist [pdf]

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> Art is made to explore the world and the culture, to explore the chosen medium, to explore one's self.

Creating for such purposes is admirable.

In my mind, tech is a mirror reflection of art; it (usually) starts from the context of a business or out of cold practicality, and occasionally rises to craftsmanship. Code rarely stands on beauty alone though, unlike art.

Re: Dear Young Artist [pdf]

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post #2

> Art is made to explore the world and the culture, to explore the chosen medium, to explore one's self. Creating for such purposes is admirable. In my mind, tech is a mirror reflection of art; it (usually) starts from the context of a business or out of cold practicality, and occasionally rises to craftsmanship. Code rarely stands on beauty alone though, unlike art.

Art is about constraints. Engineering is about constraints. I am saddened somewhat but the seperation of art and science, it seems like a misunderstanding.

Being good at something is effectively being able to creatively deal with constraints and get good results. Trying to say science / engineering is different because the success function doesnt involve as much human opinion doesnt seem right.

Re: Dear Young Artist [pdf]

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We all know what "have a show in Chelsea" looks like today. The distribution model changed radically, but the personal drivers didn't. Surprisingly, the rise of new platforms only temporarily affected the old way's economics if you look at the number of photobooks published in the Netherlands. Until the first peak in 2005, these increased linearly, plateaued until 2012, and reached a new peak in 2017. While the supply of digital photography expanded, apparently so did the supply of physical photography books.

Re: Dear Young Artist [pdf]

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post #2

> Art is made to explore the world and the culture, to explore the chosen medium, to explore one's self. Creating for such purposes is admirable. In my mind, tech is a mirror reflection of art; it (usually) starts from the context of a business or out of cold practicality, and occasionally rises to craftsmanship. Code rarely stands on beauty alone though, unlike art.

Art is about constraints. Engineering is about constraints. I am saddened somewhat but the seperation of art and science, it seems like a misunderstanding. Being good at something is effectively being able to creatively deal with constraints and get good results. Trying to say science / engineering is different because the success function doesnt involve as much human opinion doesnt seem right.

Everything that touches real world is about constrains - cooking, rising a child, paying off mortgage, doing a thousand pushups etc. So, the juxtaposition of art and engineering on this axis is not helpful.

The big distinction between art and engineering is that art is supposed to speak to us and move us in an subjective way, while engineering aims to create products which are objectively good solutions for a well-defined problems.

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post #4

We all know what "have a show in Chelsea" looks like today. The distribution model changed radically, but the personal drivers didn't. Surprisingly, the rise of new platforms only temporarily affected the old way's economics if you look at the number of photobooks published in the Netherlands. Until the first peak in 2005, these increased linearly, plateaued until 2012, and reached a new peak in 2017. While the suppl…

> We all know what "have a show in Chelsea" looks like today.

I don't. Care to elaborate?

Re: Dear Young Artist [pdf]

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post #4

We all know what "have a show in Chelsea" looks like today. The distribution model changed radically, but the personal drivers didn't. Surprisingly, the rise of new platforms only temporarily affected the old way's economics if you look at the number of photobooks published in the Netherlands. Until the first peak in 2005, these increased linearly, plateaued until 2012, and reached a new peak in 2017. While the suppl…

> We all know what "have a show in Chelsea" looks like today. I don't. Care to elaborate?

I think they are referring to Instagram, twitter, etc for showing off art.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Art is about constraints. Engineering is about constraints. I am saddened somewhat but the seperation of art and science, it seems like a misunderstanding. Being good at something is effectively being able to creatively deal with constraints and get good results. Trying to say science / engineering is different because the success function doesnt involve as much human opinion doesnt seem right.

Everything that touches real world is about constrains - cooking, rising a child, paying off mortgage, doing a thousand pushups etc. So, the juxtaposition of art and engineering on this axis is not helpful. The big distinction between art and engineering is that art is supposed to speak to us and move us in an subjective way, while engineering aims to create products which are objectively good solutions for a well-de…

I suppose what i am getting at is two things:

Objectively good imho is as much a fallicy in the space of science and engineering as it is in art.

It takes the same artistic/creative skill to be a good engineer as it does an artist.

This is maybe a pedantic perspective, but i find it relevant.

Edit: objectively good for engineering is subjective expanation: you need requirements to define objectively good. I.e. sub optimal metrics to represent an entities value model. If you say hey, but engineers are structured/meticulous once they have the requirments.. i would say so are artists.

Re: Dear Young Artist [pdf]

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post #2

> Art is made to explore the world and the culture, to explore the chosen medium, to explore one's self. Creating for such purposes is admirable. In my mind, tech is a mirror reflection of art; it (usually) starts from the context of a business or out of cold practicality, and occasionally rises to craftsmanship. Code rarely stands on beauty alone though, unlike art.

Art is about constraints. Engineering is about constraints. I am saddened somewhat but the seperation of art and science, it seems like a misunderstanding. Being good at something is effectively being able to creatively deal with constraints and get good results. Trying to say science / engineering is different because the success function doesnt involve as much human opinion doesnt seem right.

> I am saddened somewhat but the separation of art and science, it seems like a misunderstanding.

I agree with this sentiment. Art and sciences used to be united. Both stem from the same place: the quest for answers and knowledge.

Re: Dear Young Artist [pdf]

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post #2

> Art is made to explore the world and the culture, to explore the chosen medium, to explore one's self. Creating for such purposes is admirable. In my mind, tech is a mirror reflection of art; it (usually) starts from the context of a business or out of cold practicality, and occasionally rises to craftsmanship. Code rarely stands on beauty alone though, unlike art.

A lot of art starts out of business context, through the business context is entertainment, marketing or generally selling.
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