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Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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Four 8 hour days. Australia the norm is 7.5 for a working week of 37.5hrs. This proposal would mean 32 hours of work.

I think a real 4 day working week would be closer to 28 hours or less: it should mean employers get somebody else for the fifth day or three three days left in the week: closer to jobshare, no overtime, people work less but the work is shared around.

Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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I've been working 4 days since 2006, when our first child was born. I don't see myself going back to working 5 days a week, even when the youngest one is older. I get to spend more time with our children, and when they're in school (I'm off on Wednesday) I have the entire day to myself. It's totally worth the pay cut!

Fun fact: 50% of employed people here in The Netherlands are working parttime in some form.

Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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Oh, beautiful Spain, playing experiments with an unemployment rate of 16.13%... I love how my country hugs the poverty closer and closer each year that passes by.

Of course you will downvote me, but as an inhabitant of such country, the truth is, this is the result of the socialist and incompetent government that is in power due to the even more incompetent opposition.

It's been long since we were the leaders of employment creation in the eurozone, back when Rajoy was in power.

Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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Oh, beautiful Spain, playing experiments with an unemployment rate of 16.13%... I love how my country hugs the poverty closer and closer each year that passes by.

Well, with a reduced work week, some jobs ( mostly service jobs that need to provide full coverage) would require more workers to cover the whole week, so i really don't see the issue here with regards to unemployment.

Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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Oh, beautiful Spain, playing experiments with an unemployment rate of 16.13%... I love how my country hugs the poverty closer and closer each year that passes by.

Aren't fewer workdays better for employment, because more people can be employed? I'm guessing it's more complicated, but is there some clear tendency?

Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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Oh, beautiful Spain, playing experiments with an unemployment rate of 16.13%... I love how my country hugs the poverty closer and closer each year that passes by.

How else would you solve the unemployment problem? By giving more hours of work to those who already have a job?

Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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post #6

Oh, beautiful Spain, playing experiments with an unemployment rate of 16.13%... I love how my country hugs the poverty closer and closer each year that passes by.

Well, with a reduced work week, some jobs ( mostly service jobs that need to provide full coverage) would require more workers to cover the whole week, so i really don't see the issue here with regards to unemployment.

Less working hours per person definitely means more workers are required in order to fill a given amount of work hours.

I'm not sure it's viable in today's financial climate, but I guess we're about to find out.

Re: Spain to launch modest trial of four-day working week

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It seems that we're slowly heading to a place where salaries are going to be much lower, because of less working hours and loss of the kinds of jobs that paid a good living wage.

Or those same jobs will just pay a lower salary.

It could be good or bad.

The good part is, less buying. Less shopping. Smaller homes. Lower needs. etc.

The bad part, all of that part of the economy that was depending those incomes is going to have to transition to something else.

Maybe it could lead to more people moving to lower cost countries... OR... more people living like how people live in Bangkok, Beijing or Bali.

Either way, the end the middle class as we know it in America is quickly coming to an end.

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