PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
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Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#2Good to see. It's about time PHP got forked even if experimentally.
It seems to me that you could fix a lot of the problems with PHP by breaking backwards compatibility.
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#3Mmm, string looping!
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#4I'm a long-time PHP user (since 1998) but I never really peered inside the discussions of the internals of PHP. Now that I'm more connected to others in the PHP world, what you see inside the mailing list for PHP internals is what I would label as obstructionism and an attitude that seems to imply that if you cannot code the requested changes yourself, don't even bother asking.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way are the only three choices available to any language.
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#5Good to see. It's about time PHP got forked even if experimentally. It seems to me that you could fix a lot of the problems with PHP by breaking backwards compatibility.
or just moving on.
php itself does break backwards compatibility, and it doesnt really help.
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#6Boo, deleted short tags. Why do people hate short tags again? I can't remember because <? is not valid XML so there shouldn't be any problems with mixing php and xml... hmm... I wonder ....
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#7I'm a long-time PHP user (since 1998) but I never really peered inside the discussions of the internals of PHP. Now that I'm more connected to others in the PHP world, what you see inside the mailing list for PHP internals is what I would label as obstructionism and an attitude that seems to imply that if you cannot code the requested changes yourself, don't even bother asking. Lead, follow, or get out of the way are…
Also, if you can code the change yourself it gets rejected as "not a bug" for a few times, then they think about it and say that it's too late for any reasonable release and that it will go into PHP 6 or 5.3 or something that you won't upgrade too because it breaks too much other stuff.
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#8Boo, deleted short tags. Why do people hate short tags again? I can't remember because <? is not valid XML so there shouldn't be any problems with mixing php and xml... hmm... I wonder ....
It is not a unique escape code.
Everytime I type those three little characters, it gives me great pleasure.
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#9Boo, deleted short tags. Why do people hate short tags again? I can't remember because <? is not valid XML so there shouldn't be any problems with mixing php and xml... hmm... I wonder ....
It is not a unique escape code. Everytime I type those three little characters, it gives me great pleasure.
Can you give a demonstration of its non-uniqueness?
Re: PHP Hacking aka trying to push PHP internals forwards
#10Boo, deleted short tags. Why do people hate short tags again? I can't remember because <? is not valid XML so there shouldn't be any problems with mixing php and xml... hmm... I wonder ....
It is not a unique escape code. Everytime I type those three little characters, it gives me great pleasure.
It always bugged me that the PHP community didn't pick up on this and run with it. We've had ASP tags since the beginning (almost?) but I think people avoid it out of some anti-MS stance. Rails runs with <%= just fine.