Comparison of Postsurgical Scars Between Vegan and Omnivore Patients
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Comparison of Postsurgical Scars Between Vegan and Omnivore Patients
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Re: Comparison of Postsurgical Scars Between Vegan and Omnivore Patients
#2> This study suggests that a vegan diet may negatively influence the outcome of surgical scars.
This is unusually damning to veganism-as-it-is-practiced if not to veganism itself. It would be interesting to see these results across a wide range of diets.
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#3is effect size mentioned in the full text?
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#4> Conclusion: This study suggests that a vegan diet may negatively influence the outcome of surgical scars.
> Twenty-one omnivore and 21 vegan patients who underwent surgical excision of a nonmelanoma skin cancer
Interesting, but its a small group and stats are on the low end?
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#5Related: the surgical scars of fasting mouse heal better (various publications report the same results)
The same seems to apply in human, with various individual anecdotal report: https://www.quora.com/Did-long-term-water-fasting-improve-an...
Re: Comparison of Postsurgical Scars Between Vegan and Omnivore Patients
#6> Conclusion: This study suggests that a vegan diet may negatively influence the outcome of surgical scars. > Twenty-one omnivore and 21 vegan patients who underwent surgical excision of a nonmelanoma skin cancer Interesting, but its a small group and stats are on the low end?
n=21 is not necessarily a small population from a statistical standpoint.
Anyway, would be interesting to get comments from doctors who trest vegans. I'm not surprised at the result (we are what we eat), so perhaps vegans really should be on vitamins.
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#7> Wound diastasis was more frequent in vegans (p = .008).
To me this is the bad part. Wound diastasis means that your incision opens up again. That is IMO a bigger complication than a scar since it likely requires medical intervention and puts you at risk for infection.
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#8> This study suggests that a vegan diet may negatively influence the outcome of surgical scars. This is unusually damning to veganism-as-it-is-practiced if not to veganism itself. It would be interesting to see these results across a wide range of diets.
Agreed that there are probably ways to remediate some of these effects.
I definitely favor smaller less impactful scarring, but also, so what? Calling ths "unusually damning" seems like a significant overinflation of concern.
For all we know, it may have far more significant pro-recovery characteristics associated with it. "Oh you built too much scar tissue? Your vegan diet also stitched your blood vessels back together really well."
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#9What's the point of having a better looking scar if you're more likely to get colon cancer?
Also, given that study itself measured Iron and B12, supplementing Iron and B12 may help scar healing w/o the (red) meat eating downside.
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#10> This study suggests that a vegan diet may negatively influence the outcome of surgical scars. This is unusually damning to veganism-as-it-is-practiced if not to veganism itself. It would be interesting to see these results across a wide range of diets.
Agreed that there are probably ways to remediate some of these effects. I definitely favor smaller less impactful scarring, but also, so what? Calling ths "unusually damning" seems like a significant overinflation of concern. For all we know, it may have far more significant pro-recovery characteristics associated with it. "Oh you built too much scar tissue? Your vegan diet also stitched your blood vessels back toget…
dang really needs to get YC to develop an AI that can automatically add /s to ironic comment.