The Myth of Moderate Exercise
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The Myth of Moderate Exercise
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#2> Research suggests that weight may largely be regulated by biology, which helps determine the body's "set point,"
So where did all the fatties come from? They didn't used to be here.
This is ridiculous. There are big, obvious changes in diet and exercise levels since the 70s that have correlated well with rising obesity.
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#3> Within a few months, most of the participants had resorted to exercising as much as they chose to. That left researchers with a slightly different data set than they had planned for...
This self-selection tends to invalidate the study I think. It is possible that the people who chose not to exercise much were exactly the ones who needed it the most. The people who chose to exercise a lot are more likely to have been fitter in the first place.
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#4> Research suggests that weight may largely be regulated by biology, which helps determine the body's "set point," So where did all the fatties come from? They didn't used to be here. This is ridiculous. There are big, obvious changes in diet and exercise levels since the 70s that have correlated well with rising obesity.
I agree. White americans, are similiar to Europeans (more like a mix), yet they are a lot fatter.
And how do you explain people in North California, or northern VA/DC/Maryland being a lot slimer than people just a state away.
It seems more a enviroment/culturual/city walkability thing
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#5Yankee apologists are bad enough. Now we have fat people apologists. It really isn't hard: exercise moderately, take walk breaks, get enough sleep, consume primarily vegetables then fruit then meat/carbs. Eat five small meals a day and focus on lower calories.
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#6> Within a few months, most of the participants had resorted to exercising as much as they chose to. That left researchers with a slightly different data set than they had planned for... This self-selection tends to invalidate the study I think. It is possible that the people who chose not to exercise much were exactly the ones who needed it the most. The people who chose to exercise a lot are more likely to have bee…
This self-selection tends to invalidate the study
Not to mention the fact that almost no treatment of a "study" in popular media distinguishes between correlation and causation. There is a difference, a fact lost on almost everyone these days.
[I lost .4 pounds last Thursday commenting on Hacker News. Therefore, typing causes weight loss :-) ]
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#7> Research suggests that weight may largely be regulated by biology, which helps determine the body's "set point," So where did all the fatties come from? They didn't used to be here. This is ridiculous. There are big, obvious changes in diet and exercise levels since the 70s that have correlated well with rising obesity.
I agree. White americans, are similiar to Europeans (more like a mix), yet they are a lot fatter. And how do you explain people in North California, or northern VA/DC/Maryland being a lot slimer than people just a state away. It seems more a enviroment/culturual/city walkability thing
The walkability and culture things are pretty critical, but my armchair opinion is that the biggest factor is fat consumption. Americans eat something like 20% as much fat as they did in the 40s, and the drop off since the early 80s has been fairly sharp. People are eating much less fat and much more starch, with all the insulin and fat storage implications that brings.
Across time and between nations now the role of fat is pretty clear. More fat, thinner people. The recent studies that have put people on high fat, low carb diets are unmatched. People lose the weight and keep it off when you tell them to cut the potatoes and eat butter instead.
Re: The Myth of Moderate Exercise
#8> Research suggests that weight may largely be regulated by biology, which helps determine the body's "set point," So where did all the fatties come from? They didn't used to be here. This is ridiculous. There are big, obvious changes in diet and exercise levels since the 70s that have correlated well with rising obesity.
One theory says that the food you eat can affect your set point. High-calorie, strongly flavored foods that are easily digested (which make up most of the modern American diet) raise your set point. Breaking the flavor-calorie association with flavorless calories supposedly lowers your set point.
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#9> Within a few months, most of the participants had resorted to exercising as much as they chose to. That left researchers with a slightly different data set than they had planned for... This self-selection tends to invalidate the study I think. It is possible that the people who chose not to exercise much were exactly the ones who needed it the most. The people who chose to exercise a lot are more likely to have bee…
If I read correctly all they even looked at was light treadmill exercise. Yeah, you have to do that for hours to impact the body. You have to burn through glycogen stores to really get anywhere. It's different for more intense sessions and strength training, though. They can be short and have impact beyond calorie arithmetic.
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#10Yankee apologists are bad enough. Now we have fat people apologists. It really isn't hard: exercise moderately, take walk breaks, get enough sleep, consume primarily vegetables then fruit then meat/carbs. Eat five small meals a day and focus on lower calories.
Who the hell could eat primarily vegetables? You'd be on the shitter half the day.
Also, a fruit heavy diet is particularly bad for weight loss. Humans don't deal with fructose too well.