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Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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This is why we need open source drivers. Now they are crippling cards for crypto mining, in the future there might be a whole list of other software features that require a paid unlock or even monthly subscription to use the full potential of your own hardware.

Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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I'm probably going to be downvoted into oblivion but I'm genuinely curious: Does anybody else think that the "mining is bad for the environment and gamers can't buy the cards" argument is a bit weird? After all, if all these cards weren't used for mining but for gaming, wouldn't the environmental outcome be the same?

I mean, is there any inherent upside to burning tons of energy for games vs burning it for a cryptocurrency? How much electricity do all the gaming PCs and gaming consoles in the world consume vs Argentina? To me, it feels a lot like Nascar or Formula one burning tons of fuel.

I don't think that it is somehow bad to play games, but I wonder why the one (crypto) is always criticized into oblivion for the energy consumption, while the other isn't.

Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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I have no sympathy for miners, but purely from software freedom perspective this is maximally evil: closed-source software that decides what you can use your hardware for.

The CMP version is a straight-to-landfill product. As soon as it stops being profitable for mining it will have zero resale value, and become e-waste.

Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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I'm probably going to be downvoted into oblivion but I'm genuinely curious: Does anybody else think that the "mining is bad for the environment and gamers can't buy the cards" argument is a bit weird? After all, if all these cards weren't used for mining but for gaming, wouldn't the environmental outcome be the same? I mean, is there any inherent upside to burning tons of energy for games vs burning it for a cryptocu…

How much use does a GPU get in a gaming PC? A few hours per day? In crypto farms these things are running 24/7. Anyway, i still think its a bad move to tell people what they can and can not do with their hardware.

Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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I'm probably going to be downvoted into oblivion but I'm genuinely curious: Does anybody else think that the "mining is bad for the environment and gamers can't buy the cards" argument is a bit weird? After all, if all these cards weren't used for mining but for gaming, wouldn't the environmental outcome be the same? I mean, is there any inherent upside to burning tons of energy for games vs burning it for a cryptocu…

You don’t play 24/7.

Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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Discussed 2 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26180260

Nvidia announces mining GPUs, cuts the hash rate of RTX-3060 in half (nvidia.com) 454 points by bcatanzaro 2 days ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 731 comments

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Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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I'm probably going to be downvoted into oblivion but I'm genuinely curious: Does anybody else think that the "mining is bad for the environment and gamers can't buy the cards" argument is a bit weird? After all, if all these cards weren't used for mining but for gaming, wouldn't the environmental outcome be the same? I mean, is there any inherent upside to burning tons of energy for games vs burning it for a cryptocu…

I would guess that computers used for gaming are turned off most of the time, whereas mining rigs are likely turned on and using much of the GPU at all times?

Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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Curious to see how ethereum participants react to this. Will it just become a race to defeat nvidia’s mining-detection logic in order to up the available supply of cards?

(caveat: don’t know enough about contemporary ethereum to know how this works with PoS)

Re: Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate

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This is why we need open source drivers. Now they are crippling cards for crypto mining, in the future there might be a whole list of other software features that require a paid unlock or even monthly subscription to use the full potential of your own hardware.

I think it’s done through firmware.
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