I meet people sometimes that don't care about privacy policy because they think they have nothing to hide. I think there were some stories on HN where someone thought they have nothing to hide but then got into problems because their privacy was misused or their data was misused. Those stories provide lesson that everyone should care about privacy and how their data is used. Cannot find such stories now using search. anyone has links to them? Or any similar story or news articles that can be used to convince that everyone should care about privacy even those people who think they have nothing to hide?
Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
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Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#2A couple ideas:
If you don't like privacy then you don't need curtains in your house.
Ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Most people will balk.
One thing to think about is that some people don't mind losing their privacy to the government or a corporation but they do care about losing it to real humans that know them. As an example, if a husband is cheating on his wife he doesn't care if the NSA or Big Tech knows about it because they (most likely) won't do anything negative with that information. But he would want to keep that information from people he knows because they may use it against him and will definitely treat him differently by having that knowledge.
Food for thought.
Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#3One of the most important responsibilities of being privileged (in this case, having nothing to hide) is that your demands for privacy act as a buffer for those who are vulnerable.
I think of it as a sort of herd immunity against overreach. “Something to hide” isn’t implicitly bad, it’s just not something you want shared. Cory Doctorow’s take on this is “everyone knows what you do on the bathroom, they don’t mean you want it visible to everybody”
Sure I don’t have anything to hide, but if we all stand up for privacy, then we’re all protected.
Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#4Yes. Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say. That's not my own original thought but here is where I got it from:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/36ru89/comment/crglgh...)
Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#5No. if indded we have nothing to hide.
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Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#7A couple ideas: If you don't like privacy then you don't need curtains in your house. Ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Most people will balk. One thing to think about is that some people don't mind losing their privacy to the government or a corporation but they do care about losing it to real humans that know them. As an example, if a husband is cheating on his wife he doesn't care if the NSA or Bi…
I find the curtains argument stupid. They look lovely, are sound-absorbing, and I'm not too fond of black windows at night, which mirror everything.
Other than that, good points!
Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#8People who claim that they have nothing to hide either haven't thought that concept fully through or are psychopaths.
Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#9A couple ideas: If you don't like privacy then you don't need curtains in your house. Ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Most people will balk. One thing to think about is that some people don't mind losing their privacy to the government or a corporation but they do care about losing it to real humans that know them. As an example, if a husband is cheating on his wife he doesn't care if the NSA or Bi…
Not uncommon at all to have no curtains. Portion of those that do, might use them for other purposes too (glare, light etc).
People will balk at giving a random friend their device but probably will be perfectly okay handing it over unsecured to a repair shop. People will be unwilling to show many body parts to a friend but likely perfectly fine showing them to a doctor.
That I do not want to show something to you specifically, doesn't mean I'm hiding something from you. If you ask me to give you my browsing history I may or may not. Depends on the reason. If it gets leaked to everybody I will be rather unfazed. But if you call me to tell me you're carefully examining the leak at this very moment, I will still feel weird about it.
Another example. The nearby grocery store knows what food I'm getting every other day. Would I like this information broadcast to friends and family in real time? No, would feel awkward. Will I go crazy if the list for the last 2 years gets leaked in an instant? Not at all.
Re: Ask HN: Should you care about privacy policies if you have nothing to hide?
#10A couple ideas: If you don't like privacy then you don't need curtains in your house. Ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Most people will balk. One thing to think about is that some people don't mind losing their privacy to the government or a corporation but they do care about losing it to real humans that know them. As an example, if a husband is cheating on his wife he doesn't care if the NSA or Bi…
I find the curtains argument stupid. They look lovely, are sound-absorbing, and I'm not too fond of black windows at night, which mirror everything. Other than that, good points!
Without curtains, criminals can scope out your house more easily.