The Atrocious Robert Clive
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The Atrocious Robert Clive
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#2Good piece on a vile character, despite the poor, rambling, writing.
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#3The Anarchy by William Dalrymple throws some light on Clive's life as well.
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#4I am assuming that readers interested in the original post would be interested in India's colonial history in general.
https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/rethinking-churchill-...
Churchill is usually seen in much better light. That light, however, hides many of his atrocities. History is indeed written by the victorious.
The author of the articles is Shashi Tharoor, a name that some might recognize.
Part 2 is here https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/rethinking-churchill-...
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#5I don't understand this piece.
its a "humorous" slating of a historical person, but the footnotes talk about some prick from arizona? am I missing some extra context here?
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#6I am assuming that readers interested in the original post would be interested in India's colonial history in general. https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/rethinking-churchill-... Churchill is usually seen in much better light. That light, however, hides many of his atrocities. History is indeed written by the victorious. The author of the articles is Shashi Tharoor, a name that some might recognize. Part 2 is her…
In the interests of providing a little balance:
- https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091022064745.h...
- https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/did-churchill-cause-t...
- https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00963402.1987.11...
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#7I am assuming that readers interested in the original post would be interested in India's colonial history in general. https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/rethinking-churchill-... Churchill is usually seen in much better light. That light, however, hides many of his atrocities. History is indeed written by the victorious. The author of the articles is Shashi Tharoor, a name that some might recognize. Part 2 is her…
People often forget that a lot of people in the UK disliked Churchill - my father was in the RAF during WW2 and he hated him. Churchill was removed from office by a general election right after the end of the war - though he was elected again a few years later.
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#8This piece is so silly, and the framing is too. In the portrait we are not looking at anybody’s ass, that is a major stretch. Nobody imagined themselves motherly to pigeons. I dunno, I don’t get this.
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#9I am assuming that readers interested in the original post would be interested in India's colonial history in general. https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/rethinking-churchill-... Churchill is usually seen in much better light. That light, however, hides many of his atrocities. History is indeed written by the victorious. The author of the articles is Shashi Tharoor, a name that some might recognize. Part 2 is her…
In the interests of providing a little balance: - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091022064745.h... - https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/did-churchill-cause-t... - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00963402.1987.11...
In case anyone else wants a summary of these links, they are criticisms of three historical allegations against Churchill, respectively that he:
- Used gas against Iraqis
- Exacerbated the Bengal famine
- Used anthrax bombs against Nazi Germany
I don't believe any of these allegations are made in the preceding comment's link, although it does quote him as being in favour of the option of using gas against Arab natives.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the interests of providing a little balance: - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091022064745.h... - https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/did-churchill-cause-t... - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00963402.1987.11...
In case anyone else wants a summary of these links, they are criticisms of three historical allegations against Churchill, respectively that he: - Used gas against Iraqis - Exacerbated the Bengal famine - Used anthrax bombs against Nazi Germany I don't believe any of these allegations are made in the preceding comment's link, although it does quote him as being in favour of the option of using gas against Arab native…
Or if you really want to open up a can of worms - the firebombing of Dresden in which (it's suggested) 25,000 people, mostly civilians, died as a result of an attempt to intimidate/frighten the German population. But to take an overview, we should then return to the question of Hiroshima and that second bomb on Nagasaki. How far is one prepared to go to win a war?