Australia’s Proposed “Fox News Tax”
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Australia’s Proposed “Fox News Tax”
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#2> “Google’s threat to withdraw its search engine from Australia is chilling to anyone who cares about democracy.”
Is it? Or have they just realised they may have just stopped the business model that has kept search engines free?
Even if you think the business model survives, how is this even close to chilling? So you get competitors in its place. How does that hurt democracy?
What hurts democracy is Media companies lobbying for laws that suit only them. Giving them money for their content won't make them produce actual news.
If they want to be paid extra for listing, then that should make them rank lower. That's how business works - their news is more costly, and therefore of lower value. This law smacks of protectionism.
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#3So the proposition in this article is that Murdoch is just using this to enrich himself, at the expense of Google and Facebook specifically.
What do you call a competition where you want both sides to somehow lose?
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#4I think it's interesting how they use Fox News in the title, not News Corp. Sadly the makes it clear this is a agenda article not really about the people. The statement is made that the funds raised should goto the Australia citizens and not the news producers who's content is being used by big tech without compensation. While the law maybe bad it's not made clear by the anti "Fox News" agenda of the author, sadly this is what most news has come to not reporting but reporter agenda pieces.
Quick update, it's also very clear why ABC was left out from Wikipedia "The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) is Australia's national broadcaster, founded in 1929. It is principally funded by the direct grants from the Australian government and is administered by a board appointed by the government of the day"
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#5So the proposition in this article is that Murdoch is just using this to enrich himself, at the expense of Google and Facebook specifically. What do you call a competition where you want both sides to somehow lose?
I call it "American politics", but I'm sure there's an "X's Choice" a la Sophie or Hobson for it.
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#6> “Google’s threat to withdraw its search engine from Australia is chilling to anyone who cares about democracy.” Is it? Or have they just realised they may have just stopped the business model that has kept search engines free? Even if you think the business model survives, how is this even close to chilling? So you get competitors in its place. How does that hurt democracy? What hurts democracy is Media companies l…
I think the supposition is that if Google and FB have to pay for news articles from proper news outlets with proper journalists, they may decide not do. At the same time, people will not change their habits of getting their news from social media. This will lead to most people getting "news" from writers that are not qualified journalists, increasing the echo chamber effect and narrowing the range of information people have to reason with. This is the danger to democracy.
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#7This is exactly why we need micropayments on the web. Without correct solutions from the open source movement and the open Web, the State will end up doing stuff like this.
We have been building a community-to-publisher micropayment model. You can read about the economics of it here: https://qbix.com/QBUX/whitepaper.html#ECONOMICS
And furthermore, all these projects should start adopting the Web Monetization stardard, based on Interledger Protocol. Coil is a company started by Stefan Thomas (former CTO of Ripple) to effect micropayments on the Web. They teamed up with Mozilla to make this a standard. We are participating to implement it in all our open source community servers:
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2020/03/web-monetization-coil-and-...
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#8So the proposition in this article is that Murdoch is just using this to enrich himself, at the expense of Google and Facebook specifically. What do you call a competition where you want both sides to somehow lose?
You're 100% correct, as it stands there's not a great outcome. What we need is for social media to have to pay for the information they profit from, whilst at the same time ensuring that official media outlets have to produce quality, well researched, fact-led journalism. If we have both of these things then we win.
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#9I think it's interesting how they use Fox News in the title, not News Corp. Sadly the makes it clear this is a agenda article not really about the people. The statement is made that the funds raised should goto the Australia citizens and not the news producers who's content is being used by big tech without compensation. While the law maybe bad it's not made clear by the anti "Fox News" agenda of the author, sadly th…
>sadly this is what most news has come to
This is a blog post by one writer. It's not reflective of what "most news" is about any more than any random blog post is, i.e., not representative at all.
Google for Australia google news tax, and click news to see actual news sites, and not one in the first several pages (actually, I can find exactly zero) have a title like the one you complain is "what most news has come to".
Are to cite any real news (as in a major news publication) source as an example of your claimed bias? I can't find any.
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#10Well, Google can gig source news from tens of millions of googlers - sure it will need editing for duplicates, originality and time priority, but they could link ad $$ to the wages based on clicks - that's what they can do.
Since Murdoch is the premier Australian news paper publisher ~~80% or so???, he will collect that same % of the take, and I do mean take.