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Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Why not a touch-and-go? It's a long way down the runway, could it have landed, touched, then for some reason powered up to take off again

The photographer was there, he just can't remember if the plane was landing or taking off. Presumably he would remember a touch and go, I would :)

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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I remember this showing up in the SO sidebar a long time ago (what a time-suck that thing is). At the time, I remember thinking that some of these people must be trolling - and I still do.

For example, the people arguing that the wheels have already touched down. It seems abundantly obvious to me that the wheels have NOT touched down, and that the small strip of black asphalt running parallel to the wheels is a taxi-way in the background which has lots of small aircraft sitting on it. I get the uneasy feeling that anybody that sees it any differently is just trying to gaslight me. But, then, that was also the feeling I got about the blue dress, and that turned out to be all too genuine... People genuinely saw it differently, they weren't trolling.

To me, the lack of heat blur behind the engines seems to be reasonably conclusive evidence that it's landing... But who knows.

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Do you think it's possible that Air Force One Pilots are instructed to land at unconventional spots on the runway to foil potential threats? Perhaps even to land at different spots on the runway on different landings?

I know it sounds far-fetched, but my mom who was the "Cultural Affairs Officer" at the US Embassy in San Jose Costa Rica was instructed to take a different route from home to the embassy and back every day, and to try to depart at slightly different times each trip. This was in the late 80s when Costa Rica was a relatively safe place (it's even safer today).

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Buried in the comments[1] is a jpg showing the sequence of multiple photos and one of the images has smoke from the tires landing:

https://i.stack.imgur.com/QTrv2.jpg

It's a fun mental exercise to know that the final answer is landing while reading the answers that forcefully argue that the plane is taking off. Some of the "evidence" to support that the plane is taking off is very persuasive.

[1] https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/34586/is-this-p...

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Do you think it's possible that Air Force One Pilots are instructed to land at unconventional spots on the runway to foil potential threats? Perhaps even to land at different spots on the runway on different landings? I know it sounds far-fetched, but my mom who was the "Cultural Affairs Officer" at the US Embassy in San Jose Costa Rica was instructed to take a different route from home to the embassy and back every…

My uninformed intuition would be that trying to land the plane differently each time would introduce more risk than it would protect against (and what threats would it even protect against?).

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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post #6

Do you think it's possible that Air Force One Pilots are instructed to land at unconventional spots on the runway to foil potential threats? Perhaps even to land at different spots on the runway on different landings? I know it sounds far-fetched, but my mom who was the "Cultural Affairs Officer" at the US Embassy in San Jose Costa Rica was instructed to take a different route from home to the embassy and back every…

The full-blown practice of this (so things like losing a tail) is referred poetically referred to the Russian intelligence services as dry-cleaning (Proverka? I forget the exact russian term)
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