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America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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In india, its well known the reliance and adani group pretty much run the country as its own. Everyone knows this but cant do anything because the "selected" leaders do everything in their power to keep their overlords' control.

Like literally the entire India is in a recession, every Indian has lost savings and investments are down and employment is shot to shit but these two people have earned billions.

Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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> Traditionally two kinds of private industries have been deemed to be “clothed in the public interest.” One consists of “common carriers,” the other “public accommodations.” A common carrier like a railroad cannot refuse service to passengers or cargo, with narrow exceptions. And a public accommodation like a hotel or a restaurant or a grocery store cannot reject paying customers, with narrow exceptions.

Written in regards to SCOTUS precedent of instructions for private companies, it’s hard to see how the tech monopolies are not “common carrier” if not also a “public accommodation” depending on how you want to look at it.

> The result is our present situation, in which some of the indispensable industries in the U.S. economy, social life, the media and politics are allowed to make their own rules, in the form of ever-changing “terms of service” that nobody reads;

Either way... it seems like this can (should) not continue this way. Like everything hyper-partisan now; I expect we only see a reaction when the pendulum swings and for a brief moment “both sides” can agree something is wrong, until “the other side” switches there position and this is OK now.

Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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> Traditionally two kinds of private industries have been deemed to be “clothed in the public interest.” One consists of “common carriers,” the other “public accommodations.” A common carrier like a railroad cannot refuse service to passengers or cargo, with narrow exceptions. And a public accommodation like a hotel or a restaurant or a grocery store cannot reject paying customers, with narrow exceptions. Written in…

These are neither of these things, if anything they're publishers - like booksellers or newspapers; on the web anyone can be a publisher in minutes at almost zero cost.

common carriers and public accommodations have to do with limited access in the physical world - none of those constrains apply to the digital one.

Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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> Traditionally two kinds of private industries have been deemed to be “clothed in the public interest.” One consists of “common carriers,” the other “public accommodations.” A common carrier like a railroad cannot refuse service to passengers or cargo, with narrow exceptions. And a public accommodation like a hotel or a restaurant or a grocery store cannot reject paying customers, with narrow exceptions. Written in…

These are neither of these things, if anything they're publishers - like booksellers or newspapers; on the web anyone can be a publisher in minutes at almost zero cost. common carriers and public accommodations have to do with limited access in the physical world - none of those constrains apply to the digital one.

The top HN story earlier today was a tale of how Google can effectively cripple a company that doesn't even use any of its services:

https://gomox.medium.com/google-safe-browsing-can-kill-your-...

Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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IMO tech overplayed their hand. If there's one thing lawmakers don't like, it is being shown their power is limited.

This time it was the right, but the left knows it can happen to them next. I feel congress has realized tech has too much power now.

The ball has started rolling. Expect heavy anti-trust enforcement, regulations and forced interoperability to erode their power.

Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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post #6

IMO tech overplayed their hand. If there's one thing lawmakers don't like, it is being shown their power is limited. This time it was the right, but the left knows it can happen to them next. I feel congress has realized tech has too much power now. The ball has started rolling. Expect heavy anti-trust enforcement, regulations and forced interoperability to erode their power.

I think this (anti-trust enforcement) is much overdue. Social networks need to be regulated in regards to free speech, children and youth usage and advertising, etc., etc.

Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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In india, its well known the reliance and adani group pretty much run the country as its own. Everyone knows this but cant do anything because the "selected" leaders do everything in their power to keep their overlords' control. Like literally the entire India is in a recession, every Indian has lost savings and investments are down and employment is shot to shit but these two people have earned billions.

How was Jio service in J and K before 5 August?

Re: America’s New Corporate Tyranny

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post #6

IMO tech overplayed their hand. If there's one thing lawmakers don't like, it is being shown their power is limited. This time it was the right, but the left knows it can happen to them next. I feel congress has realized tech has too much power now. The ball has started rolling. Expect heavy anti-trust enforcement, regulations and forced interoperability to erode their power.

Today its the voice of those you hate, tomorrow it will be your voice. Fascism is bad period and it exists in either direction.

We have talked about why big tech censoring is bad on HN for years now the rest of the world is catching up.

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