10 years-ish of Elixir
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Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#2Author here!
The article was published earlier this week and I have a quick addendum: regarding Erlang/Elixir, my goal has always been to bring new developers to the platform. After all, Erlang developers already have the most important part of Elixir, which is the Erlang runtime!
There are also key people in both communities working hard to make sure the tooling is consistent across all languages. A lot of this effort happens under the Erlang Ecosystem Foundation (https://erlef.org/) too.
All to say, regardless if you pick Erlang or Elixir (or Gleam, LFE, etc.), I hope you will fall in love with the platform as much as I did 10 years ago!
Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#3Author here! The article was published earlier this week and I have a quick addendum: regarding Erlang/Elixir, my goal has always been to bring new developers to the platform. After all, Erlang developers already have the most important part of Elixir, which is the Erlang runtime! There are also key people in both communities working hard to make sure the tooling is consistent across all languages. A lot of this effo…
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Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#4Congratulations to José and the entire elixir team, I find elixir to be a language which makes me incredibly happy as a developer, and I look forward to using it for another 10 years.
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Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#5Author here! The article was published earlier this week and I have a quick addendum: regarding Erlang/Elixir, my goal has always been to bring new developers to the platform. After all, Erlang developers already have the most important part of Elixir, which is the Erlang runtime! There are also key people in both communities working hard to make sure the tooling is consistent across all languages. A lot of this effo…
I'm going to shamelessly take advantage of your being here with a question if that's ok. Do you have any recommendations for reading material that covers Phoenix as it's used today?
Back in the early 0.x days I read the Phoenix book, which was a great introduction to building an application and using Ecto, but trying to pick it up again recently I found that nothing really seems to cover using Contexts in the real world.
Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#6Author here! The article was published earlier this week and I have a quick addendum: regarding Erlang/Elixir, my goal has always been to bring new developers to the platform. After all, Erlang developers already have the most important part of Elixir, which is the Erlang runtime! There are also key people in both communities working hard to make sure the tooling is consistent across all languages. A lot of this effo…
I'm going to shamelessly take advantage of your being here with a question if that's ok. Do you have any recommendations for reading material that covers Phoenix as it's used today? Back in the early 0.x days I read the Phoenix book, which was a great introduction to building an application and using Ecto, but trying to pick it up again recently I found that nothing really seems to cover using Contexts in the real wo…
Not Jose (obviously), but I have a copy of https://pragprog.com/titles/phoenix14/programming-phoenix-1-... which I think is still fairly relevant.
Of course, there is always https://elixirforum.com and a good search :)
Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#7Author here! The article was published earlier this week and I have a quick addendum: regarding Erlang/Elixir, my goal has always been to bring new developers to the platform. After all, Erlang developers already have the most important part of Elixir, which is the Erlang runtime! There are also key people in both communities working hard to make sure the tooling is consistent across all languages. A lot of this effo…
I'm going to shamelessly take advantage of your being here with a question if that's ok. Do you have any recommendations for reading material that covers Phoenix as it's used today? Back in the early 0.x days I read the Phoenix book, which was a great introduction to building an application and using Ecto, but trying to pick it up again recently I found that nothing really seems to cover using Contexts in the real wo…
This may be a non-answer answer, but given you are versed on the Phoenix front, may I suggest a book on the design aspect of things? For example, Domain Driven Design Quickly: https://www.infoq.com/minibooks/domain-driven-design-quickly...
It has been a while since I have read it, so it may be dated, but hopefully others can provide suggestions too!
Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#8Happy Elixir user here. At work we have a use case that isn't covered by José's high-level overview of the domains Elixir's used in: we run a massive multiplayer game server on it.
This is actually a really good fit. (It kind of rhymes with the original use of Erlang, being telecoms infrastructure.) We get outstanding concurrency support, high reliability, and really efficient development times. I can't imagine shipping this feature with a server written in C++ (the language I'm most comfortable in), and I can't imagine scaling it the way we need to if we'd gone for a traditional web language like Node, PHP, etc.
If you're interested, you can see the RakNet (game networking protocol) implementation we use on the server here:
https://github.com/X-Plane/elixir-raknet
The README gives a good overview of the full MMO server's architecture, too: each client connection is a stateful Elixir process (not to be confused with a heavy-weight OS process!), acting asynchronously on a client state struct; clients then asynchronously schedule themselves to send updates back to the user.
Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#9Author here! The article was published earlier this week and I have a quick addendum: regarding Erlang/Elixir, my goal has always been to bring new developers to the platform. After all, Erlang developers already have the most important part of Elixir, which is the Erlang runtime! There are also key people in both communities working hard to make sure the tooling is consistent across all languages. A lot of this effo…
I'm going to shamelessly take advantage of your being here with a question if that's ok. Do you have any recommendations for reading material that covers Phoenix as it's used today? Back in the early 0.x days I read the Phoenix book, which was a great introduction to building an application and using Ecto, but trying to pick it up again recently I found that nothing really seems to cover using Contexts in the real wo…
You probably have seen it already, but recent Phoenix docs have a section on contexts and what is their intended use case: https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/contexts.html
The way I see it, context are just the public API to access your data model. Your Ecto schema is a piece of data, which in a functional language has no behaviour attached. The (business) logic to deal with this piece of data lives in the context. That's it.
It's nothing particular and specific about Ecto or Phoenix, it's just a good design practice that's applicable and recommended in any language.
Gary Bernhardt at https://www.destroyallsoftware.com has a few screencasts and talks about this very topic.
Re: 10 years-ish of Elixir
#10Nice little retrospective. I’ve been using Elixir and Phoenix both for personal projects and in production at Househappy since 2015. It’s been nothing short of wonderful and to this day it remains my favorite programming language and ecosystem to work in. Congratulations to José and the rest of the core Elixir team for this milestone!