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Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

#2
Just make your own platform bro

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Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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I think our history books do a disservice when they teach McCarthyism by focusing only on the falsely accused-- many Americans really did support the USSR and some even swore an oath to Stallin. The lesson should be that it was still a mistake to take civil liberties away from these people who passionately supported a horrible cause, not that McCarthyists were just bad prosecutors who arrested the wrong people.

I believe Trump supporters, especially the QAnon weirdos, are wrong to believe the things that they do, but they are less wrong than the people who supported the Soviet Union during its genocidal reign. Unless people are charged and convicted of a crime, their livelihoods should not be taken away by the whims of these powerful companies selectively enforcing their rules. McCarthyism was wrong then and it's wrong now, even though its targets are wrong too.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Just make your own platform bro Just create your own online shop bro Just host your own platform bro Just host your own videos bro Just make your own DDoS protection bro Just make your own ISP bro Just create your own law firm bro Just create our own payment processing bro

If you’re a principled free market conservative, then all of those are valid responses.

Welcome to the free market at work! Sometimes market forces work against you but you don’t get to complain about it.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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post #3

I think our history books do a disservice when they teach McCarthyism by focusing only on the falsely accused-- many Americans really did support the USSR and some even swore an oath to Stallin. The lesson should be that it was still a mistake to take civil liberties away from these people who passionately supported a horrible cause, not that McCarthyists were just bad prosecutors who arrested the wrong people. I bel…

The QAnon folks are no less irrational than any other (pseudo-)religious devotees and should be afforded the same protections under the first amendment.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Just make your own platform bro Just create your own online shop bro Just host your own platform bro Just host your own videos bro Just make your own DDoS protection bro Just make your own ISP bro Just create your own law firm bro Just create our own payment processing bro

If you’re a principled free market conservative, then all of those are valid responses. Welcome to the free market at work! Sometimes market forces work against you but you don’t get to complain about it.

When all of those happen to you and are supported by the other half of the country are you more likely to try and integrate or secede?

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

#7

Just make your own platform bro Just create your own online shop bro Just host your own platform bro Just host your own videos bro Just make your own DDoS protection bro Just make your own ISP bro Just create your own law firm bro Just create our own payment processing bro

If you’re a principled free market conservative, then all of those are valid responses. Welcome to the free market at work! Sometimes market forces work against you but you don’t get to complain about it.

Had we all but vestiges of a free market, these would be valid responses, but we don't.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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post #3

I think our history books do a disservice when they teach McCarthyism by focusing only on the falsely accused-- many Americans really did support the USSR and some even swore an oath to Stallin. The lesson should be that it was still a mistake to take civil liberties away from these people who passionately supported a horrible cause, not that McCarthyists were just bad prosecutors who arrested the wrong people. I bel…

The QAnon folks are no less irrational than any other (pseudo-)religious devotees and should be afforded the same protections under the first amendment.

This is like the millionth time this has been posted on this website in the past few days, but the first amendment applies to the government, not private companies.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re a principled free market conservative, then all of those are valid responses. Welcome to the free market at work! Sometimes market forces work against you but you don’t get to complain about it.

Had we all but vestiges of a free market, these would be valid responses, but we don't.

We still have enough of a free market that Stripe can legally do this.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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post #3

I think our history books do a disservice when they teach McCarthyism by focusing only on the falsely accused-- many Americans really did support the USSR and some even swore an oath to Stallin. The lesson should be that it was still a mistake to take civil liberties away from these people who passionately supported a horrible cause, not that McCarthyists were just bad prosecutors who arrested the wrong people. I bel…

The QAnon folks are no less irrational than any other (pseudo-)religious devotees and should be afforded the same protections under the first amendment.

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