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Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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Re: Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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Ages ago I installed a shareware product. And it also had a scrollable "terms and condition" screen (about 2 pages long) when starting it for the first time. When you clicked the "I Agree" button too quickly it would ask you "Do you really agree to the terms you read in only 0.76 seconds?"

Re: Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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Thought experiment: can we have a standard TOS for centralized services?

Building the next Facebook? Legally bind yourself that you'll always provide API access and this right cannot ever be taken away to the extent permitted by the law.

Maybe we need a standardization for centralized service TOS like MIT/GPL etc are for OSS. So people can decide more easily which centralized services to use.

Re: Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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Then the second biggest lie is:

We use cookies to give you the best experience on our website. If you continue to use this site we will assume you are happy with it. [Ok] [No] [Privacy Policy]

Actual text from the www.gdpr.eu cookie consent pop-up. =)

Re: Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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If a website knows I didn't really read a contract, can they claim I am bound by it?

I like to hope that the time-spent-reading is logged somewhere. Should it come up in court, Website.com would be required to disclose their logs which would show that I spent all of 1.35s reading their terms and conditions, most of which was spent scrolling.

Another puerile hack of mine is to sign a document with the name "I do not agree" and then press accept, and see if they agreed to let me use the service anyway.

Re: Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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If a website knows I didn't really read a contract, can they claim I am bound by it? I like to hope that the time-spent-reading is logged somewhere. Should it come up in court, Website.com would be required to disclose their logs which would show that I spent all of 1.35s reading their terms and conditions, most of which was spent scrolling. Another puerile hack of mine is to sign a document with the name "I do not a…

Yes, as long as they make it a required step. It's your fault if you choose to not read it.

Re: Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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post #3

Ages ago I installed a shareware product. And it also had a scrollable "terms and condition" screen (about 2 pages long) when starting it for the first time. When you clicked the "I Agree" button too quickly it would ask you "Do you really agree to the terms you read in only 0.76 seconds?"

I have seen a few that forced you to at least scroll down before unlocking the accept button or included a thirty second countdown to keep you from clicking through.

Re: Terms of Service; Didn’t Read

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I think we need some universal standards for ToS. The same way we have some visual rating signs for movies and video games. Most of it should be regular and easy to categories. And there should be a separate rating for how many irregular terms are in there.
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