Arrests of Hong Kong democrats shows why EU must reject China investment
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#2I imagine Taiwan will be next especially since Biden is a Chinese puppet.
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#3If we care at all about our future and the generations to come, we must oppose China at all costs.
They extinguish dissent. Not just locally, but abroad. They censor our domestic companies that want a foothold in their market (Disney, Blizzard, the NBA, Apple).
We need to stop taking their money, and we need to move manufacturing to Vietnam, India, Mexico, and Africa. Strategic manufacturing (medical and tech) needs to be re-onshored.
They're flexing their muscles because they know they will be on top. If we continue the status quo, it's only a matter of time.
We will wind up just like them if we continue to let this cancer grow.
It will be incredibly painful, but we need to stop importing. Now.
We can play hard. Militarize Japan. Strengthen our partnership with Vietnam. Offer US statehood to Taiwan and build a base there. Dispute the South China Sea takeover, start building oil rigs, and police the area.
Be a better ally to Europe and our democratic partners.
edit: Here come the anti-US downvotes. We're overrun with the enemies of democracy. It doesn't matter if you're a liberal of conservative - we have to unite to protect our precious, priceless freedom.
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Re: Arrests of Hong Kong democrats shows why EU must reject China investment
#5I imagine Taiwan will be next especially since Biden is a Chinese puppet.
Given the HKHRDA passed the Senate unanimously and in the House by 417-1,⁰ bipartisan consensus even ignoring your entirely unsourced claim that Biden is a Chinese puppet means that there is some will to resist this prospect.
The problem in the US is not intent but competence. Biden can be relied upon to not e.g. flip-flop as Trump did on North Korea or petulantly ask what the point of a long-term alliance is, and therefore is much better for those countries in Asia who want to resist China but want their major ally not to behave so erratically. In fact, Trump seemed to think of China as a counterparty with whom a ‘deal’ could be struck for his own political purposes:¹ he had no actual ideological objection to e.g. the camps in Xinjiang; Biden, like most members of the blob, at least pretends (probably even to himself!) to consistently and resolutely oppose that sort of thing (the obvious examples of e.g. support for Saudi Arabia notwithstanding), which means far more consistency. And consistency is good for alliances.
0. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/183...
1. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/us/politics/trump-uighurs...
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#6If we care at all about our future and the generations to come, we must oppose China at all costs. They extinguish dissent. Not just locally, but abroad. They censor our domestic companies that want a foothold in their market (Disney, Blizzard, the NBA, Apple). We need to stop taking their money, and we need to move manufacturing to Vietnam, India, Mexico, and Africa. Strategic manufacturing (medical and tech) needs…
To be clear, China isn’t censoring these companies - the traitors running the companies are censoring them on behalf of China.
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#7If we care at all about our future and the generations to come, we must oppose China at all costs. They extinguish dissent. Not just locally, but abroad. They censor our domestic companies that want a foothold in their market (Disney, Blizzard, the NBA, Apple). We need to stop taking their money, and we need to move manufacturing to Vietnam, India, Mexico, and Africa. Strategic manufacturing (medical and tech) needs…
Too late
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#8This timing is unsurprising; it’s clear there’s nobody at the wheel in the U.S. for a couple of weeks, lowering the odds of reprisal during this window of opportunity. What would shift this? Does the E.U. have sufficient clout?
Re: Arrests of Hong Kong democrats shows why EU must reject China investment
#9If we care at all about our future and the generations to come, we must oppose China at all costs. They extinguish dissent. Not just locally, but abroad. They censor our domestic companies that want a foothold in their market (Disney, Blizzard, the NBA, Apple). We need to stop taking their money, and we need to move manufacturing to Vietnam, India, Mexico, and Africa. Strategic manufacturing (medical and tech) needs…
I don't see this going down the path of "we wind up just like them". I see this going down the path of WW III. What we need is another cold war. Any hot war will be unimaginably costly and drawn out.
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#10If we care at all about our future and the generations to come, we must oppose China at all costs. They extinguish dissent. Not just locally, but abroad. They censor our domestic companies that want a foothold in their market (Disney, Blizzard, the NBA, Apple). We need to stop taking their money, and we need to move manufacturing to Vietnam, India, Mexico, and Africa. Strategic manufacturing (medical and tech) needs…
Thing is, U.S. and all of the civilised world does not have enough resources for a cold war with China. It will be simply defeated the way Soviet Union was defeated - just run out of money and overall steam.
It's time to adapt to Chinese leadership and extract benefits of democracy and freedom which they don't have. Too late to keep trying to oppose it.
Example: Chinese military shipbuilding delivers more tonnage per year than the rest of the world combined. And they don't even try all too hard.
China will simply own the world in the XXI century, probably concentrating the majority of worldwide economic output in every sector of production and consumption, in as little as a generation from now.
What's left to be done is to cave in - try to be as little dependent on them as possible, make hot war unattractive to them - by being as little of a threat to them as possible, and by having little of interest for them to take too, and in general self-isolate.
On the good side of things, Chinese are very unlikely to proselytize the way U.S. does or the way Soviet Union did: they understand very well that Maoism is linked to the traits of Chinese national character and will not work outside of East/Southeast Asia. They just seek to become, and will become what they always seen themselves as being: the Middle Kingdom where all interesting things happen, with the rest of the world being just a side story. Think 1960 USA. 30 years down the road, we will for sure see it happen.