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Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup

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Re: Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup

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FTFA:

"three officials on Thursday morning: a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries..."

So 3 European officials call it a coup? How about some evidence? This claim is drivel.

Re: Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup

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> Another video showed a police officer allowing a rioter to take a selfie with him inside the Capitol

The alternative for that officer was violence. While surrounded.

The lies coming out of the media (which normally lie he took the selfie with the protesters) at the moment are insane.

Sure, "Trump deliberately attempted a coup".... because he's mentally ill.

But the media is actually pulling off a real coup by consistently implying it was even close to happening. Feeding "Multiple European security officials" who feed them back.

How did the "5 people dead" reported from the media actually die out of interest? We know one, filmed from many angles, all the rest? These ongoing media lies are outrageous.

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post #3

> Another video showed a police officer allowing a rioter to take a selfie with him inside the Capitol The alternative for that officer was violence. While surrounded. The lies coming out of the media (which normally lie he took the selfie with the protesters) at the moment are insane. Sure, "Trump deliberately attempted a coup".... because he's mentally ill. But the media is actually pulling off a real coup by consi…

https://www.cbs58.com/news/what-we-know-about-the-4-deaths-i...

One person was shot by police. As for the other three:

"One adult female and two adult males appear to have suffered from separate medical emergencies, which resulted in their deaths," Contee said. "Any loss of life in the District is tragic and our thoughts are with anyone impacted by their loss."

At least one one those medical emergencies was simply a heart attack. And possibly another from an accidental fall from scaffolding, though the article says police were unclear. Doesn't sound like violence had anything to do with them, at least directly. If it did, I'd expect that to be made clear.

Re: Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup

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    coup
    /ko͞o/
    
    noun

    1.  a sudden, violent, and illegal 
    seizure of power from a government.
Sudden? Sure. Violent? Yes but on the lower end of the spectrum of human conflict. One person got shot by the police, one died of a heart attack, the rest had ‘medical emergencies’. (Edit: An officer died after being attacked by one of the rioters.)

The part I’m not understanding is where was the attempt to seize power?

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post #6

coup /ko͞o/ noun 1. a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Sudden? Sure. Violent? Yes but on the lower end of the spectrum of human conflict. One person got shot by the police, one died of a heart attack, the rest had ‘medical emergencies’. (Edit: An officer died after being attacked by one of the rioters.) The part I’m not understanding is where was the attempt to seize power?

I mean, they stormed the seat of power of the legislature, halted the process of officially determining the next president, and caused the evacuation of a joint session of Congress, all quite literally under the banner of the loser of the election. How successful at it do they have to be to even rise to "attempt" in your mind?

The people who came in armed and with zip-tie flex cuffs, what were they attempting to do?

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post #3

> Another video showed a police officer allowing a rioter to take a selfie with him inside the Capitol The alternative for that officer was violence. While surrounded. The lies coming out of the media (which normally lie he took the selfie with the protesters) at the moment are insane. Sure, "Trump deliberately attempted a coup".... because he's mentally ill. But the media is actually pulling off a real coup by consi…

https://www.cbs58.com/news/what-we-know-about-the-4-deaths-i... One person was shot by police. As for the other three: "One adult female and two adult males appear to have suffered from separate medical emergencies, which resulted in their deaths," Contee said. "Any loss of life in the District is tragic and our thoughts are with anyone impacted by their loss." At least one one those medical emergencies was simply a…

Trump was actually hoping the entire gravy seal battalion would suffer coronaries on the walk to the capitol building, it's the only way he gets out of this without the mob turning on him.

Think about it, Trump invites these gas bags to the white house, and then gets em all riled up about something or other, then tells them to march to the capitol? That's 9 miles away! A march of that length is practically a death sentence for a lot of these patriots! Trump is playing 4d chess as always.

Sure, some of them may have rascals or walkers to lean on, but that march might as well be 40 years in the desert. Stumbling, out of breath, leaving a trail of high capacity ar-15 mags emblazoned with the cross, and dragging a confederate flag through the mud like a starving sauropod's tail, just after the meteor.

Trump new exactly what he was doing. Exercise for Americans!? He's bold,you got to give him that.

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post #6

coup /ko͞o/ noun 1. a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Sudden? Sure. Violent? Yes but on the lower end of the spectrum of human conflict. One person got shot by the police, one died of a heart attack, the rest had ‘medical emergencies’. (Edit: An officer died after being attacked by one of the rioters.) The part I’m not understanding is where was the attempt to seize power?

I mean, they stormed the seat of power of the legislature, halted the process of officially determining the next president, and caused the evacuation of a joint session of Congress, all quite literally under the banner of the loser of the election. How successful at it do they have to be to even rise to "attempt" in your mind? The people who came in armed and with zip-tie flex cuffs, what were they attempting to do?

Steal the laptops of Pelosi and her staff.

Re: Some among America's military allies believe Trump deliberately attempted a coup

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post #6

coup /ko͞o/ noun 1. a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Sudden? Sure. Violent? Yes but on the lower end of the spectrum of human conflict. One person got shot by the police, one died of a heart attack, the rest had ‘medical emergencies’. (Edit: An officer died after being attacked by one of the rioters.) The part I’m not understanding is where was the attempt to seize power?

One capitol police officer was also bludgeoned to death by a fire extinguisher. Several rioters were openly carrying and pointing firearms indoors. Your post falsely minimizes the violence of supporters of the president seizing the capitol building while congress meets inside it to intimidate them into overturning the lawful democratic process to favor their preferred candidate.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/us-capitol-police-officer-dies...

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