Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
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Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#2Bad news, given that most of the vaccines in the pipeline were not tested on children.
Edit: -1 karma now without any rebuttals. Why? It is true, children were considered a population with the least risk during development of the vaccines.
That means that if we want to inoculate them, new trials must be run, necessarily taking some time. Or we can waive the trials and hope that what works for adults, works for children as well. Possible, but with unknown risks.
From my point of view, that is bad news.
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#3Does anyone know where to find absolute numbers on age distributions of people currently hospitalized with C19? We’ve seen enough misunderstandings of data in the news that I prefer to see data myself.
(Bonus points for “With-vs-From” data, but I haven’t been able to find that broken out in any public dataset.)
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#4Britain kept schools open after the first lock down. That now appears to have been a mistake. I expect they will close them now. In the US we are gearing up to put kids back in school in person despite the UK variant also spreading here. Worse yet is that vaccines haven't been tested in kids.
So as we sit here on a precipice contemplating about what to do, I do know that kids aged 12+ can get the monoclonal antibody treatments so if your kids develop symptoms get them tested so they can be treated.
Younger kids are still SOL I think...
From the CDC, you can turn the plot lines off and on on the left hand side. Focus on the growth rate in pediatric population. The trend in age group 0-4 is disturbing.
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#5There are no numbers or evidence in this article. I need more information before believing this in the slightest.
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#6Britain kept schools open after the first lock down. That now appears to have been a mistake. I expect they will close them now. In the US we are gearing up to put kids back in school in person despite the UK variant also spreading here. Worse yet is that vaccines haven't been tested in kids. So as we sit here on a precipice contemplating about what to do, I do know that kids aged 12+ can get the monoclonal antibody…
Isn't that the cumulative rate? It looks near-linear to me, which would mean consistent growth rate since March.
I think it's read as "how many people in (age group) have been hospitalized with C19" - note that the lines for all age groups are strictly increasing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#7Britain kept schools open after the first lock down. That now appears to have been a mistake. I expect they will close them now. In the US we are gearing up to put kids back in school in person despite the UK variant also spreading here. Worse yet is that vaccines haven't been tested in kids. So as we sit here on a precipice contemplating about what to do, I do know that kids aged 12+ can get the monoclonal antibody…
Isn't that the cumulative rate? It looks near-linear to me, which would mean consistent growth rate since March. I think it's read as "how many people in (age group) have been hospitalized with C19" - note that the lines for all age groups are strictly increasing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
It is certainly not linear.
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#8I often wondered if there was a mechanical explanation for this originally. Young children are smaller than adults so aren’t getting covid since they can’t get coughed on, similar to glasses helping prevent spread slightly among the nearsighted. However once a kid gets it, the height differences are removed and so kids get it from each other.
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#9This is believable if you remember that complication rates are a variable independent from a virus's infectiousness. The more aggressively it spreads, the more likely at least one person will need hospitalisation, even in a virus with a very low complication rate in general. Or, in other words, there are so many children getting it that the 0.002% complication rate or whatever it was starts showing more.
Re: Covid wards 'full of children' for first time in pandemic, warn nurses
#10This is believable if you remember that complication rates are a variable independent from a virus's infectiousness. The more aggressively it spreads, the more likely at least one person will need hospitalisation, even in a virus with a very low complication rate in general. Or, in other words, there are so many children getting it that the 0.002% complication rate or whatever it was starts showing more.
Isn’t that the “law of large numbers” or something?