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Voat Shuts Down

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Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Sad news - only because the people there will move out of their lazaretto onto other sites.

this is likely good news. When reddit closed down hate subreddits people migrated to other subreddits and researchers studied their behavior. Turned out that individual users reduced their hateful behavior once they entered into more mixed communities.

I don't think there is much evidence for this 'Lich King' thesis that keeps coming up on HN. Destroying these platforms has likely positive effects.

I'm surprised people even find this intuitive. When you want to deprogram extremists in the real world you take them out of their radical communities, you don't put them into a nazi village or send them off to ISIS.

Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Sad news - only because the people there will move out of their lazaretto onto other sites.

this is likely good news. When reddit closed down hate subreddits people migrated to other subreddits and researchers studied their behavior. Turned out that individual users reduced their hateful behavior once they entered into more mixed communities. I don't think there is much evidence for this 'Lich King' thesis that keeps coming up on HN. Destroying these platforms has likely positive effects. I'm surprised peop…

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

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this is likely good news. When reddit closed down hate subreddits people migrated to other subreddits and researchers studied their behavior. Turned out that individual users reduced their hateful behavior once they entered into more mixed communities. I don't think there is much evidence for this 'Lich King' thesis that keeps coming up on HN. Destroying these platforms has likely positive effects. I'm surprised peop…

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

That works for you short term, the other works for the majority over the longer-term.

Re: Voat Shuts Down

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The community platform I'm building was linked in a Voat thread about alternatives to move to, which led to a bit of traffic a few days ago. A number of people (20+) signed up but haven't posted any voat-like content yet.

I suppose the focus on tech/code and lack of political content dissuaded them completely. Good!

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this is likely good news. When reddit closed down hate subreddits people migrated to other subreddits and researchers studied their behavior. Turned out that individual users reduced their hateful behavior once they entered into more mixed communities. I don't think there is much evidence for this 'Lich King' thesis that keeps coming up on HN. Destroying these platforms has likely positive effects. I'm surprised peop…

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

That is fine until there are implications in the real world. Extremist echo chambers can convince someone to commit a physical atrocity such as a shooting or bombing.

The real question is whether or not the shooter who frequents 8chan/2chan/voat/etc would have committed the shooting if they didn’t frequent extremist sites?

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this is likely good news. When reddit closed down hate subreddits people migrated to other subreddits and researchers studied their behavior. Turned out that individual users reduced their hateful behavior once they entered into more mixed communities. I don't think there is much evidence for this 'Lich King' thesis that keeps coming up on HN. Destroying these platforms has likely positive effects. I'm surprised peop…

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

"Hateful" is subjective. Where you hang out simply has a different definition of hateful to where they hang out.

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I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

"Hateful" is subjective. Where you hang out simply has a different definition of hateful to where they hang out.

Utter nonsense. The community of Voat, as well as other far right/alt-right online communities, are hateful and wrong. If a group is intolerant of an unchangeable characteristic of another group (esp. race, socio-religious background, etc.), then it is hateful group to be opposed by free society.
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