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“I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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Re: “I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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> we both felt secure that the free software movement is progressive, and cares about being inclusive and equal opportunities oriented.

Unfortunately it has been proved very often that this is not true. This is not the first case of racism and sexisme in FOSS and probably won't.

Re: “I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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Wow, this is horrible. It sounded like the court sided with you even though it was beyond their remit/reach to be able to fine them, which I think is pretty damming of the situation.

I hope that you can take some time out to recover and then go on to find something worthy of your time and effort within a positive environment.

(edit: grammar)

Re: “I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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"Our efforts coincided with the resignation of Richard Stallman from the US-based sister organisation of FSFE due to careless revictimisation of female victims of sexual abuse- another gender discrimination issue in our community that would cause the situation in our office to deteriorate quickly."

Careless revictimization? I've heard it all. I will never talk to another human being again at work because talking gets you fired or sued.

Re: “I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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"Our efforts coincided with the resignation of Richard Stallman from the US-based sister organisation of FSFE due to careless revictimisation of female victims of sexual abuse- another gender discrimination issue in our community that would cause the situation in our office to deteriorate quickly." Careless revictimization? I've heard it all. I will never talk to another human being again at work because talking gets…

That's reductionist to the point of meaningless. There's a spectrum of communications from 'professional and respectful' to 'shaming, sexual abuse and discrimination'. It's a lame argument to throw up your hands and pretend there's no way out. Often used by folks seeking to explain away their terrible behavior.

Re: “I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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post #4

> we both felt secure that the free software movement is progressive, and cares about being inclusive and equal opportunities oriented. Unfortunately it has been proved very often that this is not true. This is not the first case of racism and sexisme in FOSS and probably won't.

Indeed. It's a top down problem. Richard Stallman is a heroic philosopher but a disgusting human being and much of FSF's management is cast in the same mold.

Re: “I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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Operations like the FSF have a single goal - to promote Free Software.

If they can also promote equality at the same time, then great.

But the goal of promoting equality and free software are not equal - free software is the primary goal.

If the organisation is acting illegally, then it's a matter for the police. But if the organisation is focussing on it's primary goal rather than a 2ndary goal you think is more important, it's probably a sign it's time to quit and start your own organisation with different goals...

Re: “I took FSFE to court. This is my story”

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> A female colleague and me had dared to discuss wage transparency and gender pay gap in the office. […] Our boss Matthias was beyond furious. After that office meeting, he told my colleague “there will be consequences”.

Under German law you are not only allowed to talk about your salary with your colleagues, it is expressly illegal for your employer to try and stop you from doing this. I’m surprised a German boss would warn of “consequences” for doing that, and if FSFE had a union I doubt he would have gotten away with it.

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