Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
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Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
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Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#2The market for this product is governments who stubbornly refuse to use the exposure notifications framework because they think they know better. It’s a pile of trash that drains the battery, particularly on older phones.
https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe/mobile-ios/issues?q=is%3Aiss...
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#3The market for this product is governments who stubbornly refuse to use the exposure notifications framework because they think they know better. It’s a pile of trash that drains the battery, particularly on older phones. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe/mobile-ios/issues?q=is%3Aiss...
is Herald the one Covid-safe in Australia uses?
That thing utterly murders the battery on new phones as well.
I have a Note 10 + 5G and my wife has the S20 Plus and running that means having to recharge the battery multiple times a day or risk running around without any phone.
Sometimes my wife has noticed that the battery will go DOWN while being charged. so we uninstalled the app and the problem has gone.
I was an advocate for it when they were talking about releasing it... but as usual the Australian Gov is technically incompetent.
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#4Very interesting how they made this work on iOS, given so many failed (before the Apple/Google protocol was released). A lot of the design documentation references the UK market, I wonder if VMWare were asked/volunteered to help with the NHSX app that tried to ignore the Apple/Google "blessed" approach.
> Provides a number of approaches to workaround the ‘iOS detection in the background’ bug in iOS to a point where detection and continuity is superior to existing protocols
The technical details on the protocol (seperate from the "payload" which is contact tracing specific data) are here[1], and the iOS library here[2]. I would be interested if anyone else has verified these claims.
[1] https://vmware.github.io/herald/specs/protocol [2] https://github.com/vmware/herald-for-ios
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#5The market for this product is governments who stubbornly refuse to use the exposure notifications framework because they think they know better. It’s a pile of trash that drains the battery, particularly on older phones. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe/mobile-ios/issues?q=is%3Aiss...
is Herald the one Covid-safe in Australia uses? That thing utterly murders the battery on new phones as well. I have a Note 10 + 5G and my wife has the S20 Plus and running that means having to recharge the battery multiple times a day or risk running around without any phone. Sometimes my wife has noticed that the battery will go DOWN while being charged. so we uninstalled the app and the problem has gone. I was an…
Yes, Australia’s COVIDSafe app uses Herald.
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#6Very interesting how they made this work on iOS, given so many failed (before the Apple/Google protocol was released). A lot of the design documentation references the UK market, I wonder if VMWare were asked/volunteered to help with the NHSX app that tried to ignore the Apple/Google "blessed" approach. > Provides a number of approaches to workaround the ‘iOS detection in the background’ bug in iOS to a point where d…
Yes. VMWare were one of the lead contractors on the original UK app, but are no longer on the project.
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#7The market for this product is governments who stubbornly refuse to use the exposure notifications framework because they think they know better. It’s a pile of trash that drains the battery, particularly on older phones. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe/mobile-ios/issues?q=is%3Aiss...
After a first app failure (stopcovid19), France uses the ROBERT protocol in its second app TousAntiCOVID (which is just a rebrand+slight pivot into focused news); apparently the protocol is joint-developed between Fraunhofer (Germany) and INRIA (France).
The irony is that Germany uses iOS contact tracing, so as I live near the border I miss detection of a high vector.
Scratch that, I -would miss-, it I used the app, which I don’t because it has to be opened, manually toggled on, and stay in the foreground to do any contact tracing.
Even if it were not for the battery use, the power of defaults means that the app is rarely activated by people, (when it’s installed at all since it’s not listed in the initial iOS alert you get and pick France).
Desperate posters “here I activate TousAntiCOVID” are being placated in shopping malls and stuff.
It’s ridiculous.
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#8The market for this product is governments who stubbornly refuse to use the exposure notifications framework because they think they know better. It’s a pile of trash that drains the battery, particularly on older phones. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe/mobile-ios/issues?q=is%3Aiss...
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#9The market for this product is governments who stubbornly refuse to use the exposure notifications framework because they think they know better. It’s a pile of trash that drains the battery, particularly on older phones. https://github.com/AU-COVIDSafe/mobile-ios/issues?q=is%3Aiss...
After a first app failure (stopcovid19), France uses the ROBERT protocol in its second app TousAntiCOVID (which is just a rebrand+slight pivot into focused news); apparently the protocol is joint-developed between Fraunhofer (Germany) and INRIA (France). The irony is that Germany uses iOS contact tracing, so as I live near the border I miss detection of a high vector. Scratch that, I -would miss-, it I used the app,…
But France showed repeatedly that they don't understand science, do want to listen to it, and don't want to learn from it. From the masks to the current christmas holidays who will create a 3rd wave, they proved they don't handle this virus very well.
Add to that a bit of science nationalism from the De Gaulle era, and we ended up with that app.
Re: Herald – Bluetooth contact tracing protocol
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
is Herald the one Covid-safe in Australia uses? That thing utterly murders the battery on new phones as well. I have a Note 10 + 5G and my wife has the S20 Plus and running that means having to recharge the battery multiple times a day or risk running around without any phone. Sometimes my wife has noticed that the battery will go DOWN while being charged. so we uninstalled the app and the problem has gone. I was an…
Yes, Australia’s COVIDSafe app uses Herald.
On iOS it only switched to Herald in v2.0 which - according to my phone - was installed 2 days ago.