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Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks

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Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks

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Post by gigatexal »

This is how-to-make-a-click-bait article-101.

Show me an x86 laptop in the same power envelope that can match the fanless MacBook Air with the m1. I’ll wait. Oh and do so at roughly 1k.

On the desktop the Mac mini is 699 USD in its base spec. The 5800X is 500 euros on its own before motherboard, case, ram etc etc.

Apples to apples benchmarks either controlling for power or price would make for a more relevant article.

Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks

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Post by tuhdo »

gigatexal wrote: post #3

This is how-to-make-a-click-bait article-101. Show me an x86 laptop in the same power envelope that can match the fanless MacBook Air with the m1. I’ll wait. Oh and do so at roughly 1k. On the desktop the Mac mini is 699 USD in its base spec. The 5800X is 500 euros on its own before motherboard, case, ram etc etc. Apples to apples benchmarks either controlling for power or price would make for a more relevant article…

Many other clickbait articles claimed that M1 is better than the best desktop class CPUs. I only tested the water and found otherwise. The 5900HX is planned and should be within 90% performance of my 5800X within 45W TDP. Not close to the power consumption, but then zen 3 is only on 7nm, while M1 is on 5nm.

The Mac Mini is $699 with only 8GB RAM, that runs out after a few browser tabs. So, for a work machine, you would need at least the 16GB model and add $200 to that. Though the build quality and the panel is excellent.

You could opt for the 5600X. The core count is not relevant in the article, as the benchmarks are mainly single-threaded.

Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks

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Post by gigatexal »

tuhdo wrote: post #4
gigatexal wrote: post #3

This is how-to-make-a-click-bait article-101. Show me an x86 laptop in the same power envelope that can match the fanless MacBook Air with the m1. I’ll wait. Oh and do so at roughly 1k. On the desktop the Mac mini is 699 USD in its base spec. The 5800X is 500 euros on its own before motherboard, case, ram etc etc. Apples to apples benchmarks either controlling for power or price would make for a more relevant article…

Many other clickbait articles claimed that M1 is better than the best desktop class CPUs. I only tested the water and found otherwise. The 5900HX is planned and should be within 90% performance of my 5800X within 45W TDP. Not close to the power consumption, but then zen 3 is only on 7nm, while M1 is on 5nm. The Mac Mini is $699 with only 8GB RAM, that runs out after a few browser tabs. So, for a work machine, you wou…

The unified memory does go to great lengths to make memory not such an issue. It also pages a ton. I’ve read that people can throw up hundreds of tabs in safari on the 8GB model and be just fine.

Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks

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Post by mping »

gigatexal wrote: post #3

This is how-to-make-a-click-bait article-101. Show me an x86 laptop in the same power envelope that can match the fanless MacBook Air with the m1. I’ll wait. Oh and do so at roughly 1k. On the desktop the Mac mini is 699 USD in its base spec. The 5800X is 500 euros on its own before motherboard, case, ram etc etc. Apples to apples benchmarks either controlling for power or price would make for a more relevant article…

The article mentioned faster, not cheaper. A performance-per-dollar and per watt is certainly valuable, but for a forum that always mentions that a couple hundred bucks are worth spending for shaving off time from a developer workflow (SSDs, RAM, etc, assuming they earn market rates) this benchmark is worth it.

As a desktop user, I certainly am interested in these numbers.

Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

Thanks for sharing some programming-centric benchmarks using modern CPUs. I always wish that CPU reviewers would stop churning out pages of graphs with synthetic benchmark workloads and instead post things that actually matter, like compile times and other programming benchmarks.

The M1 processor is extremely impressive for the price and power envelope. However, I'm noticing a lot of people have taken Apple's marketing material a bit too literally and assumed that it somehow beats any and every desktop CPU out there, which is clearly not the case.

Moreover, as the author mentions: A significant portion of Apple's lead came from buying exclusivity on TSMC's 5nm process through the end of the year. It will be interesting to see how AMD stacks up as they roll out 5nm parts in the future, compared to Apple's scaled up M1 successors.

Exciting times. It's good to have some progress in CPU technologies again after years of Intel stagnation.

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