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Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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Re: Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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On the home page of Florida Today, there are right now 9 different articles defending or supporting Rebekah Jones, some of them linked multiple times, for a total of 12 links on the home page with the following headlines;

  Rebekah Jones pushes back after dashcam released
  Exclusive interview with Rebekah Jones
  Evidence 'weak' for warrant on Rebekah Jones home
  Jones reacts to release of FDLE raid footage
  FDLE releases bodycam video of Rebekah Jones raid
  Fired FDOH scientist denies wrongdoing
  Rebekah Jones described equipment seized
  Fired FDOH scientist: ‘I spoke out of necessity' 
  Rebekah Jones talks whistleblower complaint

Re: Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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Everyone knows the evidence and information supporting the raid was nonsense. She refused to bend the knee to a conservative administration while people were dying, and the political machine decided to lash out.

>She refused to bend the knee to a conservative administration while people were dying, and the political machine decided to lash out.

Nope, that isn't what happened at all. The facts [1] show that she got the wrong end of the stick when the state epidemiologist asked to temporary remove one data field in order to validate the data (according to the emails seen). She didn't have all the facts, and she then incorrectly assumed that the data was being censored.

[1] https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/05/19/florida-heal...

Re: Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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post #2

On the home page of Florida Today, there are right now 9 different articles defending or supporting Rebekah Jones, some of them linked multiple times, for a total of 12 links on the home page with the following headlines; Rebekah Jones pushes back after dashcam released Exclusive interview with Rebekah Jones Evidence 'weak' for warrant on Rebekah Jones home Jones reacts to release of FDLE raid footage FDLE releases b…

Geez Rebekah, save some headlines for the rest of us

Re: Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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This is a pretty bad article.

Their expert isn't: "Butler, at the University of Florida, said making an IP address that appears to come from elsewhere isn't that complicated."

And the legal analysis is weak, but that's apparent from the title: "Experts: evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy"

Yes, search warrants are to search for evidence. If the evidence wasn't flimsy they'd have had an arrest warrant.

It offers as a defense that there were no damages.

"What (Jones) did, didn't cause any damage," she continued. "Normally you don't see prosecutors prosecuting for computer crimes something that didn't cause any harm... it seems to be a very sketchy use of discretion to try to use this very serious statute against somebody who didn't cause any harm to your systems."

But it neglects to recognize that the damaging act is the message, and whatever actions or defamation it may cause, not the stolen CPU time.

It quotes the EFF to say that an IP alone isn't good evidence, "It's a thin read to just use the IP address, and it's one that we really, really discourage," said Cindy Cohn, the EFF's executive director. But it misses that they had an IP and it coincided with a small set of people who had access and motive.

They note that the police had an IP, but no linkage of IP/customer/date. This does allow challenging the warrant, but doesn't make it instantly null and void.

It says "Cybersecurity and digital rights experts also said the fact that the emergency system in question relied on a shared user name and password further complicates the case."

No, it doesn't. Fired people are not authorized users. And they have an IP address which points to a specific one of those users, so that's not complicated.

It then attempts to conflate misuse of data with unauthorized access of the system at all by claiming that this case is similar to Van Buren v. United States which is about a police officer using his authorized access to do something which was forbidden.

I have no opinion about the case but this article is trying to give me one. Not facts, it just wants to skip straight to opinions.

Re: Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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Everyone knows the evidence and information supporting the raid was nonsense. She refused to bend the knee to a conservative administration while people were dying, and the political machine decided to lash out.

>She refused to bend the knee to a conservative administration while people were dying, and the political machine decided to lash out. Nope, that isn't what happened at all. The facts [1] show that she got the wrong end of the stick when the state epidemiologist asked to temporary remove one data field in order to validate the data (according to the emails seen). She didn't have all the facts, and she then incorrectl…

>She didn't have all the facts, and she then incorrectly assumed that the data was being censored.

So the solution is to raid her house? How about we raid the people that allege that biden fraudulently won the election?

Re: Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>She refused to bend the knee to a conservative administration while people were dying, and the political machine decided to lash out. Nope, that isn't what happened at all. The facts [1] show that she got the wrong end of the stick when the state epidemiologist asked to temporary remove one data field in order to validate the data (according to the emails seen). She didn't have all the facts, and she then incorrectl…

>She didn't have all the facts, and she then incorrectly assumed that the data was being censored. So the solution is to raid her house? How about we raid the people that allege that biden fraudulently won the election?

That's a ridiculous illogical comment. I was not commenting on the raid at all.

Re: Experts: Evidence to support search warrant on Rebekah Jones' home flimsy

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Everyone knows the evidence and information supporting the raid was nonsense. She refused to bend the knee to a conservative administration while people were dying, and the political machine decided to lash out.

>She refused to bend the knee to a conservative administration while people were dying, and the political machine decided to lash out. Nope, that isn't what happened at all. The facts [1] show that she got the wrong end of the stick when the state epidemiologist asked to temporary remove one data field in order to validate the data (according to the emails seen). She didn't have all the facts, and she then incorrectl…

Your claims are not supported by the article linked.
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