French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
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Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#2Google is fined 100 millions because tracking cookies are saved on the device before opting-in AND after opting-out, and because the cookie modal isn't clear enough. [1]
Amazon is fined 35 millions for similar reasons, but the amount is lower because they acknowledged and fixed the issues in September 2020. [2]
[1] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-financial-penalties-60-millio... [2] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-financial-penalty-35-million-...
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#3This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#4This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.
Companies would still have to be mandated to respect said options, as when the voluntary DNT was added, companies went "lalala can't hear you"
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#5Google is fined 100 millions because tracking cookies are saved on the device before opting-in AND after opting-out, and because the cookie modal isn't clear enough. [1] Amazon is fined 35 millions for similar reasons, but the amount is lower because they acknowledged and fixed the issues in September 2020. [2] [1] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-financial-penalties-60-millio... [2] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-fina…
Typical Google. Let us not even get started with the impossibility of loading Google in private mode without needing to agree to everything. Rejecting all is a dance that takes more time and mental resources than the amount i want to spend for the few times I want to turn on private mode and search something. My colleagues have also declared defeat and just accept everything. Hope the fine bites.
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#6This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.
On the contrary, companies should be trained not to use dark patterns to trick people and not to abuse cookies by tying together tracking and spying with visiting a web site.
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#7This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.
If any browser vendor just pushed a trivial standard like
X-Consent: no-cookies
X-Consent: cookies-ok
But it's a missed beat by now, nobody is paying to have hundreds of thousands of web sites updated for such a thing even if it did exist.
Sucks none of the major browser vendors are based in Europe or this might have happened. Meanwhile, I'm no lawyer, it's not clear whether the header would pass the legal test, but I'm sure a sufficiently motivated party might have a good shot at arguing that it did
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#8This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.
I did set DNT but I'm still getting tracked.
I do not want to disable all cookies, I'm perfectly happy to use credential cookies or a shopping cart, I do not want to disable everything indiscriminately.
Also I shouldn't have to out out.
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#9This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.
DNT was made for this. In-browser, voluntary. How well did it work?
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#10"""
When a user visited the page google.fr, an information banner displayed at the bottom of the page, with the following note “Privacy reminder from Google”, in front of which were two buttons: “Remind me later” and “Access now”.
This banner did not provide the user with any information regarding cookies that had however already been placed on his or her computer when arriving on the site. The information was also not provided when he or she clicked on the button “Access now”. """
Wow. I though those reminders were about some updated policy, I didn't realise they were supposed to ask for consent.
Could someone try standing with a sign saying "A reminder from me" in the google offices reception for 2 minutes and then walk out with whatever wasn't bolted down to see if they themselves consider that an adequate way to ask for consent?