Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
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Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
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Re: Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
#2Sounds great - let's see if they can deliver... I really hope they can
Re: Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
#3Does cloudflare even care about the internet? You wanna bring privacy? Stop supporting these companies.
Re: Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
#4Not quite sure what they're suggesting, as CloudFlare's approach to privacy is put them in the middle and they promise it's private... not exactly phase 3 of the internet.
In my opinion, "Phase 3" of the internet is end-to-end encrypted, no middlemen.
Re: Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
#5I don't really understand the article. He mentions how security was in the interest of both the end users and the businesses, but how does he reach the conclusion that the same is true for privacy?
My assumption is that both the businesses trying to provide services and products as well as the average customers do generally not care enough about privacy. On the contrary, while the average end user does not even know how deep modern browser fingerprinting and tracking goes, the average e commerce platform is intetested in gaining this valuable data for profit.
In the end it turned out to be mostly an ad for Cloudflares DNS service. Just like other big internet companies they are big enough that they can track users across the web, even regardless whether someone uses their DNS service. Companies like that degrade user privacy.
What we actually need to change if we want privacy is the browser permission system and javascript. The user needs to be in complete control of local resources and code while browsing the web. An in-browser firewall à la LittleSnitch would be a good start.
Re: Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
#6I don't really understand the article. He mentions how security was in the interest of both the end users and the businesses, but how does he reach the conclusion that the same is true for privacy? My assumption is that both the businesses trying to provide services and products as well as the average customers do generally not care enough about privacy. On the contrary, while the average end user does not even know…
Except for one thing... we don't track users. We're not interested in tracking users. More here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/welcome-to-privacy-and-complianc...
And technologies like oblivious DNS (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh...) mean that our DNS service doesn't even see your IP.
Re: Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
#7I don't really understand the article. He mentions how security was in the interest of both the end users and the businesses, but how does he reach the conclusion that the same is true for privacy? My assumption is that both the businesses trying to provide services and products as well as the average customers do generally not care enough about privacy. On the contrary, while the average end user does not even know…
Except for one thing... we don't track users. We're not interested in tracking users. More here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/welcome-to-privacy-and-complianc... And technologies like oblivious DNS ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh... ) mean that our DNS service doesn't even see your IP.
I didn't mean to make an accusation, I just wanted to say that you "could" given your resources. So I guess the question is why should I trust you over a competitor?
Thanks for providing more links/material.
Re: Privacy needs to be built into the Internet
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except for one thing... we don't track users. We're not interested in tracking users. More here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/welcome-to-privacy-and-complianc... And technologies like oblivious DNS ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh... ) mean that our DNS service doesn't even see your IP.
I didn't mean to make an accusation, I just wanted to say that you "could" given your resources. So I guess the question is why should I trust you over a competitor? Thanks for providing more links/material.
Because the traffic that passes through our network isn't ours. It's our customers' traffic. If we start to track their customers they are going to be pissed and go somewhere else. It's not in our interest to track people, it's not how we make money and it's not our mission.